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The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Industrial egg production is bad for the chickens, especially male chicks. I consume egg alternatives such as Just Egg and use alternatives (e.g. tapioca starch) for baking and no one notices.

> Industrial egg production is bad for the chickens

Most successful bird in the planet. Almost 26 billions of chicken lives in this planet because egg production. But yeah, farming is bad. Dodos are fortunate to live such wild and happy lives currently.

Re: The humble egg is an example of what’s wrong with nutrition studies (2019)

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Another article recommending Mediterranean diet. The healthy Greek and Italian people I know seem to have coffee and a cigarette for breakfast. It seems traditionally food was tight and often in the winter they'd skip meals and go hungry, so Med diet is probably closer to intermittent fasting.

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#63
Complex synergistic systems are notoriously challenging to understand. They can have multiple moving parts, with various intertwined causes and effects. But with our limited tooling, we often have to isolate a part from the whole to get but a glimpse at how it works. The approach is scientific, often clean and elegant. It's quite tempting. It also gives the illusion of predictability. I wish scientists would realize that sometimes, all they've actually discovered is exactly that, how the part works in isolation, with no guarantee that the sum of the set can predict the outcome of the whole.

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#64
Even if eggs are somewhat unhealthy you also have to balance that with the fact that they have every possible nutrient and micronutrient needed to create a living animal.

You could be getting trace nutrients we don’t even know we need.

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post #59

N=1. I was eating eggs daily. My cholesterol was high and my doc wanted to put me on statins. I said let me try diet and exercise. I changed it what I was eating (no more daily eggs) and 6 months later I dropped 50 points in bad cholesterol.

Did you do the exercise as well? There is a lot more evidence that exercise lowers your cholesterol than that eating eggs raises it. Not only is your anecdote N=1, but you also probably changed severak variables with controlling any of them.

I did do the exercise. I'm not sure of the exact timeline, because part of it was me eating heavy breakfast ham & cheese croissants, but I also was eating eggs leading up to my wedding as part of the slow food diet to lose weight. I don't remember at which points my cholesterol was measured, but I did stop doing the daily eggs.

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post #60

I eat astonishing numbers of eggs, and salt nearly everything heavily. My N=1 study shows its all good for you, letting you stay active for life with low cholesterol and no health issues. It reminds me of the 100+ year old lady asked "What do you attribute your advanced age?" and she replied "Whisky and a cigar every day!" I wonder if she was in this study?

Many years ago my uncle told me eggs were bad because cholesterol. So naturally, I ate 6-8 eggs a day for a few weeks, then went for a lipid panel. My HDL went from 50 to 60 and my LDL went from 80 to 70. I think I had two ramen noodles right before that too. Granted, the initial readings were from a year before, so maybe it wasn't the eggs.

Yeah my total cholesterol has always been between 120 and 140. Not sure what the details are, but it seems to work for me.

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#67

Eat food, not too much, mostly plants. Side note: Why do we constantly cry about recommendations from the 1970s being different from today's recommendations? That's a lot of time. Over time we tend to figure things out. It doesn't mean that in 40 years today's recommendations will be overturned.

The point is that in the absence of really solid evidence we should make no recommendations at all rather than having recommendations that change over time.

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post #33

Nutrition Science is broken because of the financial incentives of companies to fund sham research to get their products sold. I strongly recommend going to https://nutritionfacts.org/ for your information -- a nonprofit that never sells anything or promotes any products, just tries to distill research on nutrition in easy-to-understand videos and posts. Here's an example: "How the Egg Board Designs Misleading Studie…

he sells and promotes his book.

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post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be great if this website answered the question “what is a healthy diet”, instead of trying everywhere to get me to watch some of its hundreds of videos.

I feel like this attitude is part of why nutrition science is the way it is. People are boxed into this "healthiness is a one-dimensional scale" thinking. Are eggs healthy or not healthy? Are potatoes healthy or not healthy? Is pizza healthy or not healthy? But reality is way more complex and nutrition science knows very little about "healthiness" (to the extent that you can distill diet into a one-dimensional scale)…

I don't think it's an attitude problem that people expect nutritional advice to be actionable in some way. Because at the end of the day the only decisions I'm able to make is choosing to eat or not eat something. If you can't write down a set of rules for me to follow that eventually halts and resolves to a "yes" or "no" then there's no point.

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post #62

Another article recommending Mediterranean diet. The healthy Greek and Italian people I know seem to have coffee and a cigarette for breakfast. It seems traditionally food was tight and often in the winter they'd skip meals and go hungry, so Med diet is probably closer to intermittent fasting.

my own observation is that when money is tight, sugar based products tend to disappear. When money is loose, they appear. The hitch is that industry has found a way to produce highly refined carbs cheaply.
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