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Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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@sabon I'm a full time solo founder (ex-Stanford, $180k made through past projects). I used Focusmate and hated it.

Have you heard of https://founderscafe.io

Basically gather.town but with an intimate group of founders from Stanford/Yc/Harvard etc. Thought you might be interested in it!

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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@sabon I'm a full time solo founder (ex-Stanford, $180k made through past projects). I used Focusmate and hated it. Have you heard of https://founderscafe.io Basically gather.town but with an intimate group of founders from Stanford/Yc/Harvard etc. Thought you might be interested in it!

Crap I forgot to add the disclaimer that I built this. Sorry about that (not sure how to edit here)

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #13

I am 42. I am still coping with a question I've had since I was young and was able to get my first office job. Why am I paid so much money to basically do data organization. I'm organizing data. There are other people that build houses, grow food, prepare food. Then there are others that are simply entertainers - but that does provide societal value. I mean I guess in order to have entertainment, we have to have this…

If you feel that guilty about it, donate.

Why do you think donations will solve this problem?

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #26

I've been using gather for months now. The free 25 user plan is more than enough for the small side project I'm working on with a few friends, and even normies absolutely fall in love with Gather once they get into it. The art style is low-quality enough to not feel uncanny, and the maps are beautiful with great effects.

Can we visit your space?

Probably not, but it's nothing special - we pick a preset, and switch it around every time we get tired of it.

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often wondered why doesn't everyone want to be a construction worker. We've all seen what they can do. Make huge structures appear out of thin air. Change the way space is. It's magic. And all the gadgets. Gigantic hydraulic arms, cranes, tractors of all sizes. Instead we're paid heaps for programming. Which kind of makes sense. In my mind, programming is about making sense of a mess. Untangling all the seemingly c…

> I often wondered why doesn't everyone want to be a construction worker. I don't like hard physical work. I don't like sweating. Much prefer to sit on my ass in front of a computer and pretend to work while i scroll endlessly through twitter.

Can you sit on anything without sitting on your ass?

Now I'm thinking about what 'sitting' actually means.

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #41

Working 10 to 12 hours straight with only one or two half an hour breaks is no goal one should thrive for. Neither working 80 hours a week. Heck, it would even be against the law in my country and it favors companies over people... We tried gather.town in my team (we develop web services for a big news site) and dropped it after a week or two. While some people seemed to like it, others disliked it very strongly. I p…

>Working 10 to 12 hours straight with only one or two half an hour breaks is no goal one should thrive for. Neither working 80 hours a week. I work on the thing I love & care deeply about (newscience.org) and I'm most happy when I work 10, 12, 16 hours straight, 60, 80, 100 hours a week. What wrong with that?

Nothing, when it's your own choice.

Everything when it isn't. Or when you're making others do it for you.

The difference is spending time on your hobby or passion project, vs. being employed by a dictator.

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #13

I am 42. I am still coping with a question I've had since I was young and was able to get my first office job. Why am I paid so much money to basically do data organization. I'm organizing data. There are other people that build houses, grow food, prepare food. Then there are others that are simply entertainers - but that does provide societal value. I mean I guess in order to have entertainment, we have to have this…

In the Army they say for every person in the field there's 10 people behind the scenes handling the logistics of keeping that person fed and supplied with what they need to be effective. Those people behind the scenes are every bit as important as that person in the field. That's what we do. We're the "behind the scenes" people that makes everything possible.

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #7

I hate these solutions that drive people towards having more and more meetings and working in committees. If this is how you want to work with some people who prefer this mode of working, good for you. Go ahead and do that with that group of people, but just please leave me alone. I want to work alone in a solitary and quiet setting with focus. [Edit] I read a bit more, and it's even worse than I thought. You want me…

The purpose seemed aimed at people that procrastinate a lot and have small-ish tasks. If you have to account for your efforts, then you might work more efficiently ?

So like the Pomodoro technique, except the break interval is forced social interaction? There truly are a zillion business models.

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #13

I am 42. I am still coping with a question I've had since I was young and was able to get my first office job. Why am I paid so much money to basically do data organization. I'm organizing data. There are other people that build houses, grow food, prepare food. Then there are others that are simply entertainers - but that does provide societal value. I mean I guess in order to have entertainment, we have to have this…

> Pirius said, "What do you mean, fakes?" > "He's a parasite. He mimics the workers here. He runs around with data desks, he sleeps in their dormitory rooms, he eats their food. It's a common pattern in communities like this. The genuine clerks are busy with their own tasks -- and here, you aren't supposed to ask questions anyhow. So Tek gets away with it. He's just like a genuine clerk. Except that you don't do anyt…

what's the name of the book?

Re: Co-working with friends over video in virtual gather.town office

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because it's not as fun as a kid using building blocks. You'd just be doing a single job over and over again into monotony and it's filled with permits, inspections, waiting, etc so projects get dragged out and you don't get thr same gratification as you would if it were done faster and all parts done by you.

> Because it's not as fun as a kid using building blocks. But is that the fault of the occupation or the occupee?

The occupation, as I explained in the rest of the comment. It's just not as stimulating.
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