Police just confirmed that at least 80 is killed at Utøya, earlier reports were 9-10. All killed by one gunman, and the deaths (at least 7) from the bomb in Oslo is in addition to these 80. :(
Explosion in central Oslo
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember the Oklahoma bombing and the first picture was of some random brown muslim guy. Turns out, it was a white athiest. Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. In fact, I seem to recall that radical jews had more attacks on US soil than radical muslims. And since 9/11 was so neatly sown up, we'll never really know who was truly behind it.
> Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. There's no such thing as a 'radical atheist' in the sense that you're using it, mate. Also, there's no mention of atheists in the FBI stats you speak of - http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-200... (Sorry, I'm sensitive to this, but then this is why we shouldn't be discussing religion a…
Alright, s/atheist/communist/
I was being lazy :P
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#63I Can't understand. Why this happened to such a peaceful nation ?!
The problem with distributed command & control, is that sometimes small groups of people working on their own initiative can talk themselves into wacked-out stuff. There is a lesson here for startups. EDIT: And by "wacked-out" I mean, "wack by even the standards of Al Qaeda." 9-11 didn't help their cause in my eyes, but I can see how they justified it to themselves. Whoever bombed Oslo - is a WTF on top of a WTF.
Obviously the solution is to control everyone.
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#64Police just confirmed that at least 80 is killed at Utøya, earlier reports were 9-10. All killed by one gunman, and the deaths (at least 7) from the bomb in Oslo is in addition to these 80. :(
It's been an emotional roller coaster, and things just got even worse. I don't have words that can describe my feelings right now.
-- A Norwegian Guy
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#65And everyone jumped to conclusions that it surely was islamist extremist terrorists, al-qeada or the like. But no, it was a right-wing nationalist anti-islamist (apparently single) guy. I am so glad.
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#66And everyone jumped to conclusions that it surely was islamist extremist terrorists, al-qeada or the like. But no, it was a right-wing nationalist anti-islamist (apparently single) guy. I am so glad.
You're so glad, really? This guy was apparently Christian, so I hope that makes you feel better about the religious aspect of it. Extremists and fundamentalists are all the same, regardless of what they're worshiping.
Also, given that Islamic extremists would be the most obvious conclusion, how is it unreasonable to draw such assumptions, especially when a supposed Islamic group claimed responsibility?
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#67And everyone jumped to conclusions that it surely was islamist extremist terrorists, al-qeada or the like. But no, it was a right-wing nationalist anti-islamist (apparently single) guy. I am so glad.
You're so glad, really? This guy was apparently Christian, so I hope that makes you feel better about the religious aspect of it. Extremists and fundamentalists are all the same, regardless of what they're worshiping. Also, given that Islamic extremists would be the most obvious conclusion, how is it unreasonable to draw such assumptions, especially when a supposed Islamic group claimed responsibility?
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#68And everyone jumped to conclusions that it surely was islamist extremist terrorists, al-qeada or the like. But no, it was a right-wing nationalist anti-islamist (apparently single) guy. I am so glad.
You're so glad, really? This guy was apparently Christian, so I hope that makes you feel better about the religious aspect of it. Extremists and fundamentalists are all the same, regardless of what they're worshiping. Also, given that Islamic extremists would be the most obvious conclusion, how is it unreasonable to draw such assumptions, especially when a supposed Islamic group claimed responsibility?
Well, why would Islamic extremists be the most obvious conclusion? That is exactly the manipulated mindset I was glad not to see confirmed.
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#70And everyone jumped to conclusions that it surely was islamist extremist terrorists, al-qeada or the like. But no, it was a right-wing nationalist anti-islamist (apparently single) guy. I am so glad.
Man started writing ~5000 years back. http://goo.gl/12i7v
Islam is a matured religion because it is written after Judaism/Christianity/Hinduism