I’d be interested if anyone here uses this feature, and if so what the use case is?
This decision seems like a no-brainer, but I’ve found I’m always surprised how much use legacy features like this can have.
Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
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Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
but why? maintaining features is cost
Perhaps one day we can have a programming language that allows us to write software that doesn't rot or corrode.
As long as code connects to other code, it will need to be updated whenever the other code is updated.
Maintenance-free code is a chimera.
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#63I don't understand all the negativity around this. People complained when Firefox added Pocket, in part because they took a browser extension and made it a feature that was ostensibly unrelated to web browsing. Now they're taking an old feature that's definitely not related to web browsing and removing it, and people are still complaining? Firefox can't be everything. It should focus on being a great browser and not…
I, for one, would be quite happy to trade FTP for no-Pocket. I sometimes looked at an ftp index through firefox, but my file managers do a perfectly good job too. Anyway I still don't want to give it up until Pocket is erased.
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#64I don't understand all the negativity around this. People complained when Firefox added Pocket, in part because they took a browser extension and made it a feature that was ostensibly unrelated to web browsing. Now they're taking an old feature that's definitely not related to web browsing and removing it, and people are still complaining? Firefox can't be everything. It should focus on being a great browser and not…
FTP is Internet browsing, it's just not not "web".
What is the use-case for FTP in 2021?
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#65I don't understand all the negativity around this. People complained when Firefox added Pocket, in part because they took a browser extension and made it a feature that was ostensibly unrelated to web browsing. Now they're taking an old feature that's definitely not related to web browsing and removing it, and people are still complaining? Firefox can't be everything. It should focus on being a great browser and not…
Mozilla is struggling and is trying to focus its resources in a way that will let them build sustainable revenue and browser share. I hope they succeed
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#66>> To date, many malware distribution campaigns launch their attacks by compromising FTP servers
Yes.. well, they can do the same by compromising servers that offer the payload via HTTP(S). At least when the payload is ftp, it stands out and you can catch it in your gateway/firewall devices.
With https you now need https inspection at the border in order to be able to do that. These MITM devices do tend to cause a lot of trouble.
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#67I don't understand all the negativity around this. People complained when Firefox added Pocket, in part because they took a browser extension and made it a feature that was ostensibly unrelated to web browsing. Now they're taking an old feature that's definitely not related to web browsing and removing it, and people are still complaining? Firefox can't be everything. It should focus on being a great browser and not…
> People complained when Firefox added [...]
> Now they're [...] removing [...], and people are still complaining?
It's different people.
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#68Lots of places like US federal institutions or universities use FTP to this day to distribute their open datasetes.
Show me an example of actual FTP MITM hack in the wild.
Sure loading FTP resources from HTTP(S) context is not a good idea (as would be downloading executables over FTP), but did they actually make any effort to inform the public and owners of FTP servers? I do not think so, I haven't seen it.
Mozilla these days has very weird priorities. Their decisions should not feel so unilateral or "because Chrome does it". There should be more emphasis on widely understood infrastructure even at the cost of "soft" projects/campaigns [1] - these could be served by the EFF after all. I can't understand why shedding MDN was a good idea in their heads.
[1] Like this one: https://foundation.mozilla.org/pl/blog/mozilla-investigation...
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#69I don't understand all the negativity around this. People complained when Firefox added Pocket, in part because they took a browser extension and made it a feature that was ostensibly unrelated to web browsing. Now they're taking an old feature that's definitely not related to web browsing and removing it, and people are still complaining? Firefox can't be everything. It should focus on being a great browser and not…
FTP is Internet browsing, it's just not not "web".
Yes, good point. Gopher is internet browsing too but is Firefox the best way to experience FTP and Gopher? How many different protocols should Firefox support? Firefox does not have the same resources as Google so focusing on what Firefox is known to do best such as HTTP and its supporting protocols, like WebSocket, really well looks like a good strategy.
Re: Stopping FTP support in Firefox 90
#70Has anyone of you ever read the RFC that defines the File Transfer Protocol? It is pure insanity. Yes I'm nostalgic about FTP, and yes it must die nonetheless.