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An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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I really don’t miss Reddit, I’ve deleted the accounts I had there and am much better off for it. I’m not sure when the real tipping point was but that platform has really lost its way.

If only the same freedom existed across all platforms. Like say HN. I do find it frustrating that the same freedom isn't accorded to you here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since the redesign Reddit has been putting a huge amount of effort into keeping people on their platform. They've went out of their way to make it impossible to send a link directly to a video without external tools like the savevideo bot, any link to click will load the entire thread and they even go out of their way to seperate audio and video requests and merge them client-side so you can't just open dev tools to…

Should have put all that development effort into making a video player that, you know, actually can play a video.

If I could get more than 40% the way through a video before it drops to 144p quality I would be so happy.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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I really don’t miss Reddit, I’ve deleted the accounts I had there and am much better off for it. I’m not sure when the real tipping point was but that platform has really lost its way.

Reddit is very enthusiastic about handing out site wide bans these days. If you say the wrong thing on the wrong topic you can be permanent banned, whereas before you would just be downvoted or argued with. Same for subreddits being banned. But only when it comes to speech it seems, not picture or video. So, for example, we have the odd case of "truelesbians" subreddit being banned for being trans-exclusive, but "les…

You're aware there is a difference between discrimination and categorization, right?

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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These "bots" are spam, pure and simple. By forcing users to visibly name the "service" they want to use in public discussion threads, and the service visibly answering on the same thread, they are basically forcing the users themselves to advertise the service. But it's still spam. You get tens of mentions of the service on each reddit thread. It would be terribly simple and probably even more userfriendly to just pr…

Reddit is literally NOTHING (absolutely nothing, zero zilch nada, is None) without the people that use it and without the content from other website they submit.

Don't get me wrong, reddit is very useful and nice. I absolutely hate Reddit the company but I still find some subs super interesting and useful. Remember, this has nothing to do with Reddit the company it self. Reddit the company it self is absolute garbage. The idea that they feel entitled enough to tell people who made the bulk of it what they should want (new design, block mobile browse, push app, and now ban download bots) is a comical.

People who work for reddit are wasting their talents, that is if they have any. I'm sure engineering wise there are talented people there, but business/design wise I'm almost certain that their value is abysmal. Reddit management is just a combination of entitled, dumb, and inexperienced.

Reddit's end is going to be like another 9gag site. At least 9gag acknowledges what they really are, but Reddit pretends as if they're fucking archive.org while they're 4chan's inferior brother but they just don't know it.

Seriously, trash company. Reddit the company and their management/strategy/design team should be a case taught in class. An exemplary case for Garbage-zero-valued-high-horse tech companies.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is very enthusiastic about handing out site wide bans these days. If you say the wrong thing on the wrong topic you can be permanent banned, whereas before you would just be downvoted or argued with. Same for subreddits being banned. But only when it comes to speech it seems, not picture or video. So, for example, we have the odd case of "truelesbians" subreddit being banned for being trans-exclusive, but "les…

You're aware there is a difference between discrimination and categorization, right?

I don't understand the distinction or how it applies to the example above, can you please explain it to me.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Users saving videos is a commercial problem for the owners of those videos. And we can't be having users enjoy videos without ads now, can we? The Reddit 'gods' may have decreed that this bot must die, but of course the real god of Reddit - and of all social media - is, of course, Mammon.

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Should have put all that development effort into making a video player that, you know, actually can play a video.

If I could get more than 40% the way through a video before it drops to 144p quality I would be so happy.

No need to brag about being able to watch 40%

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is very enthusiastic about handing out site wide bans these days. If you say the wrong thing on the wrong topic you can be permanent banned, whereas before you would just be downvoted or argued with. Same for subreddits being banned. But only when it comes to speech it seems, not picture or video. So, for example, we have the odd case of "truelesbians" subreddit being banned for being trans-exclusive, but "les…

You're aware there is a difference between discrimination and categorization, right?

How does it apply in this case?

The "truelesbians" subreddit wanted a place where biological females could discuss lesbian issues with biological females. This was not allowed by Reddit.

The "lesbians" subreddit is a place where exclusively biological females are portrayed in sexually stimulating activity with each other (mostly for male subscribers to ejaculate to). This is allowed by Reddit.

Both of these involve discrimination against so-called 'male lesbians'. The difference seems to be that the male gaze is of more importance to Reddit than female speech.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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It's quite funny for a content aggregation site to get all high and mighty about tools that make it easier to share and aggregate content.

Since the redesign Reddit has been putting a huge amount of effort into keeping people on their platform. They've went out of their way to make it impossible to send a link directly to a video without external tools like the savevideo bot, any link to click will load the entire thread and they even go out of their way to seperate audio and video requests and merge them client-side so you can't just open dev tools to…

> they even go out of their way to seperate audio and video requests

Just to give them the benefit of the doubt, many video sites do this (YT being the biggest). It allows you to change the video source on the fly (changing the bitrate for example) without effecting the audio playback so preventing any audio glitches during the swap. People are a lot more forgiving of video artifacts then they are of audio glitches. It also allows you to have a lower bitrate copy of the original video for mobile playback without having duplicate copies of the audio.

So maybe thats why they do it and not some evil plan to annoy you from saving the video (Tools like youtube-dl will happily merge the video and audio into a single container after downloading both pieces of the puzzle).

Although, I don't use reddit anymore, I gave it up a few years ago, so maybe they have gone completely evil and the video/video track splitting is simply to annoy hotlinkers (I know they have been throwing more and more dark patterns in to their redesign, the redesign was basically the kick I needed to quit that habbit). Just giving them the benefit of the doubt on that one for now as there are legit reasons to do it.

EDIT: 1) My ref to youtube-dl is about how it will merge the 2 after giving it a single YT URL. No idea if it works on reddit, but as it works on a number of sites I wouldn't be surprised if it also works on reddit (its been years since I've been on reddit in any meaningful way, so never had the urge to try).

2) ffmpeg and avconv will merge pretty much any audio track with any video track you throw at it into a single container without the need re-encode the video. In fact iirc I think those are the tools youtube-dl will use to merge the tracks after downloading content from YT.

3) as for annoying hotlinkers, there are (imo) better ways to annoy hotlinkers then spliting the audio/video tracks. Personally my fav way is to replace the video being served to the client with a copy of Never Gonna Give You Up serverside after the hotlinking is detected - but serving the orig video when its not hotlinked, but I'm a dick :-P (a more sane and polite way would be to simpy not serve any video at all, saves wasting bandwidth).

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