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Google “bought off Samsung” to limit app store competition, 36 states allege

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Re: Google “bought off Samsung” to limit app store competition, 36 states allege

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> I’d definitely put Apple in the top tier of phone and laptop quality. Especially w.r.t laptops, the majority of Windows devices seem comparatively low quality. I’m not sure about their other products but I also don’t see them advertised as much. Every MBP/MBA/MB had design flaws. From butterfly keyboard to discrete GPU, only 1 port (USB-C, for battery), etc. They fixed the keyboard problem finally, but from 2016-20…

Aside from the keyboard issues, you're talking about design choices you don't like , not design flaws . They made the choices they made, and by and large executed on them at a high degree of quality.

A bad design choice is exactly what a design flaw is though. There's no other definition. If you make bad choices, that's a flaw in your design.

End users have to live with these choices, so we get to decide what is a flaw and what is not. Focusing on thin instead of useful is a design flaw. Requiring dongles for everything is a design flaw.

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"Price" seems like a stretch. Windows laptops start at something like $700 dollars cheaper for a new device.

And they are made of inferior quality components not comparable to an Air. See used prices for evidence.

You get a graphics card for $550, many types of ports... And you think the Air is Superior?

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I'd imagine it's something like iOS where you don't get battery friendly push notifications without using services from the OS vendor and there's no way for the user to select a 3rd party service instead.

Which is fine for most users. I don't want every app doing its own inefficient push/pull notifications and tanking my battery, and I am as pro open source/etc/etc as most here.

Well, it doesn't have to be a binary choice between that and google offering it. There could be an OS API where you can hotswap who actually delivers those notifications. Right now I believe the google server actually gets hardcoded into the apps using it.

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I got my Samsung phone recently for ~$200 and it is absolutely amazing. I've had 4 by now from them, and they've all be great imo. Which companies produce better phones?

Any company that does major OS updates more than twice? Apple? Then again, Samsung doesn't try to deliberately slow my phone down or drain the battery. So no company I guess. Everyone is churning out pretty-looking garbage.

Samsung absolutely does battery drain management. Every single vendor does.

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The price is poor and the performance is worse(compared to anything with a GPU). Reliability is questionable given the numerous hardware issues Apple denied over the years. And I'm shocked you thought to mention Ports. I've been at parties where someone couldn't present a PowerPoint because of the ports on the Air.

They started at $900, had 2 USB 3.0 ports, a headphone jack, an SD card slot, and a thunderbolt 2 port for many years. Again, note the nuance in my statement that it serves the purpose for the vast majority of laptop users and its amortized cost over many years is certainly less than other consumer laptops, as evidenced by the used market. Nowadays, they are $1k, and they have Retina screen, 2 USB4/Thunderbolt3 ports…

Majority of laptop users won't need to hook up their computer to a TV?

And M1 still is inferior to having a gpu.

Re: Google “bought off Samsung” to limit app store competition, 36 states allege

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After my S5, an SSD, and a Samsung TV, I've learned that Samsung delivers medium/low quality products at high prices through relentless marketing. Any company that needs to advertise as much as Samsung/Apple/Jeep/Nintendo should be cause for skepticism.

Nintendo might not release cutting edge hardware, but they're pretty much the only big video game company left that doesn't openly release half finished games with the intention to maybe fix them a few months later.

they also seem to be the least guilty of adding microtransactions to everything. Although I haven't kept up with nintendo devices, so I'm not sure if this is still as true on the switch.

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> I’d definitely put Apple in the top tier of phone and laptop quality. Especially w.r.t laptops, the majority of Windows devices seem comparatively low quality. I’m not sure about their other products but I also don’t see them advertised as much. Every MBP/MBA/MB had design flaws. From butterfly keyboard to discrete GPU, only 1 port (USB-C, for battery), etc. They fixed the keyboard problem finally, but from 2016-20…

Aside from the keyboard issues, you're talking about design choices you don't like , not design flaws . They made the choices they made, and by and large executed on them at a high degree of quality.

design flaws, same for 2-3 generations, all the way to 2021 models https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQXXqny2wEA

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Seems odd that lobbying from what would be much smaller entities would somehow overtake lobbying from the giants.

Would you consider someone like Microsoft a small entity? Do you think they're just gonna sit back and accept that Apple and Google got to shove them out of the mobile space completely?

Not to mention much of traditional media are geared against the interests of the tech giants. It's older villains going after the newer villains.

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After my S5, an SSD, and a Samsung TV, I've learned that Samsung delivers medium/low quality products at high prices through relentless marketing. Any company that needs to advertise as much as Samsung/Apple/Jeep/Nintendo should be cause for skepticism.

You lost me at Samsung/Apple/Jeep/Nintendo. I’d definitely put Apple in the top tier of phone and laptop quality. Especially w.r.t laptops, the majority of Windows devices seem comparatively low quality. I’m not sure about their other products but I also don’t see them advertised as much. Similarly with Nintendo, they seem to deliver consistently higher quality than competitors. They may not be as fast but they last…

Apple used to be ok but you're pretty much stuck with OSX in their newer machines which is a pretty mediocre OS for development.
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