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Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

#63

I shudder to think what will happen if sci-hub is blocked completely. Someone should put it on the blockhain or something :)

Before scihub, I was in a livejournal Neuroscience community that was mostly researchers - half the posts were "I don't have access to x article, can someone send me the PDF?"

We need a better solution to Elsevier etc but the people who most need it (grad students living on a 30k stipend) have little power to fight things, and every reason not to stick their neck out when their future depends on publishing to paid journals.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

#64

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Ah, but Sci-Hub isn't illegal. There's nothing wrong with visiting the Sci-Hub home page, nor with using it as a convenient way to access open-access papers.

Right* (depending on jurisdiction, ymmv). Getting from it articles that you cannot have otherwise is (except for the vanishingly few articles in the public domain, which are not really likely to be found on Sci-Hub anyway. I tried). Saying that the work could not have been done without it is basically admitting that you got papers outside the subscriptions of your institution. It is also against the policy of all the…

> Saying that the work could not have been done without it is basically admitting that you got papers outside the subscriptions of your institution.

Not really. It could also mean: Scihub offers an efficient way to explore scientific articles, and without it, I (the scientist) wouldn't have bothered with all the different paywalls to even check if papers were worth reading. And as such, I would not have reached the same results.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right* (depending on jurisdiction, ymmv). Getting from it articles that you cannot have otherwise is (except for the vanishingly few articles in the public domain, which are not really likely to be found on Sci-Hub anyway. I tried). Saying that the work could not have been done without it is basically admitting that you got papers outside the subscriptions of your institution. It is also against the policy of all the…

> Saying that the work could not have been done without it is basically admitting that you got papers outside the subscriptions of your institution. Not really. It could also mean: Scihub offers an efficient way to explore scientific articles, and without it, I (the scientist) wouldn't have bothered with all the different paywalls to even check if papers were worth reading. And as such, I would not have reached the s…

It does not make the work possible, though. Just more convenient.

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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post #35

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We need to start organizing and go on the offensive: abolish copyright and patents through a constitutional amendment— http://www.breckyunits.com/the-intellectual-freedom-amendmen... If you’re wondering how to get the public to support it, we need to start spreading the truth. The opioid crisis kicked off by Purdue? Wouldn’t have happened without USPTO. Big tech monopolists? They get their monopoly power from IS laws…

Linking to your own website is fine and all, but not exactly a reference. And it’s hilariously short sighted. Without patent and copywrite protections, you’ll instantly see innovation come out of places where people are paid for their work. US offloading it’s manufacturing in a short sighted move to cheap labor and head-in-sand environmental outlook - sure, let’s kill the design industries too now too. There is a pro…

The balance of cost and benefits is not as clear as you may think.

https://questioncopyright.org/ http://www.dklevine.com/general/intellectual/against.htm

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

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post #47

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That reminds me of a phrase I've heard in relation to file sharing and such: "if everyone runs the red light together, there is nothing to be afraid of".

That metaphor backfirews pretty hard IMO, is that intentional?

How so? Everyone running a light together is the expected behavior if you change the color of the light. In other words, it describes nothing that isn't occurring constantly everywhere. Where does the metaphor backfire?

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

#68

> The website is blocked in a dozen countries, including Austria, Britain, and France. I'm deeply ashamed that my country would block sci-hub given that the current system is preventing scientific development.

> Britain

Not blocked for me at the the original domain

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

#69

Ms. Elbakyan attacked me rather hysterically on Twitter when she learned of an article¹ on my site that describes several methods to acquire free copies of scientific articles, including Sci-Hub. I tried to get her to tell me why she thought it was terrible of me to mention any non-Sci-Hub pathways, but her replies made less sense with each iteration. So I think that Sci-Hub has been a valuable resource, but I have c…

I am confused.

This is your tweet about the article [0] - it's from 18 hours ago. The last tweet from Alexandra [1] is from the 9th of May.

Am I missing something?

[0] https://mobile.twitter.com/lpfeed/status/1411543135944073217 [1] https://mobile.twitter.com/ringo_ring/status/139160709025538...

Re: Is Alexandra Elbakyan in real trouble this time?

#70
Seriously, why would you make your awesome website less useful for everyone because a court in India wants you to do something?

Are you Indian? Does the Indian government have some kind of authority over you? Are you combing through the laws of India to make sure you are complying with all of them?

When you're operating this kind of site, why even bother acknowledging the existence of Indian courts, or any court that can't literally imprison you right now?

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