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The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Post by gwoplock »

didibus wrote: post #44
vidarh wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being introvert vs extrovert is not about how one acts in social situations but whether one finds social situations draining or giving energy. For some introverts that translates into avoiding social activity, but that is by no means a given. I like many social situations and can be outgoing and animated in the right context, but no matter how much I might enjoy that, it is still exhausting to me, and that is what ma…

In this classification, it begs the question, do extroverts feel drained and demotivated when not in social contexts?

I think that's generally the idea. Extroverts drain their "battery" in isolation and recharge in social settings.

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Post by username90 »

paulpauper wrote: post #38
sz4kerto wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're correlated. The correlation is not 1, of course, but definitely positive. (Won't provide references -- there's plenty on the internet.) People in the bottom 30 percentile earn way less than people in the top 30.

I dunno why this is such a hard concept for people to understand Imagine you want to earn money and thus you need learn a skill. Which would earn you more money: learning to code or learning to stock shelves.

Those people would argue that learning to code has nothing to do with IQ.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Post by gwoplock »

paulpauper wrote: post #38
sz4kerto wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're correlated. The correlation is not 1, of course, but definitely positive. (Won't provide references -- there's plenty on the internet.) People in the bottom 30 percentile earn way less than people in the top 30.

I dunno why this is such a hard concept for people to understand Imagine you want to earn money and thus you need learn a skill. Which would earn you more money: learning to code or learning to stock shelves.

> Imagine you want to earn money and thus you need learn a skill. Which would earn you more money:

learning to code or learning to weld? Highly skilled work is highly paid work.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Post by teddyh »

TheDudeMan wrote: post #16
Graffur wrote: post #6

One thing I have noticed when WFH is that random calls are more disruptive than someone calling to your desk. When someone calls to your desk you're already in that environment. When someone calls you when WFH they're entering your environment - if that makes sense. I also notice that status update meetings seem to be more common.

You can choose to not answer (not always, but sometimes).

“Meyerhof was about to pass on down the list when the summons came.

It wasn’t really a summons. No one could summon a Grand Master. It was only a message that Division Head Trask would like very much to see Grand Master Meyerhof if Grand Master Meyerhof could spare him the time.

Meyerhof might, with impunity, have tossed the message to one side and continued with whatever he was doing. He was not subject to discipline.

On the other hand, were he to do that, they would continue to bother him—oh, very respectfully, but they would continue to bother him.”

­— Jokester, Isaac Asimov, 1956 https://archive.org/details/Infinity_v01n06_1956-12_LennyS-c...>

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Post by choxi »

yuy910616 wrote: post #21

Good idea and poorly written. This low-brow content should really be posted on Reddit and not HN: 1. Definition of Introvert is wrong: introvert can be gregarious, loud, and fun at parties. Introvert vs extrovert is more determined by where you get your energy from. 2. Mostly copies idea from this article [1] [1] https://marker.medium.com/context-sensitivity-and-the-introv...

Is there any good research to support "introvert vs extrovert is more determined by where you get your energy from" or is it just one of those folk wisdoms like power posing and ego depletion?

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Post by marto1 »

claudiulodro wrote: post #5

> High-paying careers favor those with the stomach for deep, solitary work. Where can I get some of this high-paid, deep, solitary work? These days software engineering is ultra-collaborative, and I doubt anybody would say that doctors/nurses, managers, finance people, or lawyers are doing deep, solitary work.

Times are approaching some sort of a surreal sort of balancing act where you're both required to be a super deep thinker and a "10x"er AND a happy go-to yes-man that deals with all of the 9 circles of corporate bureaucracy with a smile on your face.

I believe this is exactly what happens to young large industries that grew way too fast, went into politics and now everyone wants a piece of the pie.

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Post by [deleted] »

DrBazza wrote: post #48

The reign of the introverts is definitely not here nor will it ever be. I'm increasingly of the opinion that most people in this industry think they're introverts, when actually they're just a victim of extremely poor working environments, i.e. open plan offices. No other industry I can think of has such a disparity between what an employee needs for the best productivity versus what they're given by their employer,…

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Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

If the reign of introverts is here, then the introverts should hold enough power to get technology and/or laws that will actually stop spam phone calls and texts. Those things are brutal to introverts. The deeper you are in thought, the more damaging they are.

Re: The Reign of Introverts Is Here

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Post by yuy910616 »

choxi wrote: post #66
yuy910616 wrote: post #21

Good idea and poorly written. This low-brow content should really be posted on Reddit and not HN: 1. Definition of Introvert is wrong: introvert can be gregarious, loud, and fun at parties. Introvert vs extrovert is more determined by where you get your energy from. 2. Mostly copies idea from this article [1] [1] https://marker.medium.com/context-sensitivity-and-the-introv...

Is there any good research to support "introvert vs extrovert is more determined by where you get your energy from" or is it just one of those folk wisdoms like power posing and ego depletion?

I'm not sure actually, it was taught at my college's psy 101 class
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