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The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#61

If low volume is a problem for manufacturers because you don't need that much, the obvious solution is to increase volume by selling them. Of course that would introduce even more problems to solve, but at least volume wouldn't be one of them.

Servicing & warranty management for hardware sales is a very different business than their core competency.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#62

It's really amazing they made their own for so long... hardware is a commodity business.

I guess it's kind of like building your own gaming PC: Even paying retail prices for the parts, you can build your own for significantly cheaper than a comparable pre-built system. Since their business model is "extremely cheap unlimited backup storage" they had to go it alone, but now there are more COTS options similar to their needs.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#64

Any idea what Dell is actually selling them? The DVR's we buy (Avigilon) are white Dell 7x0's with a custom white bezel, but those only fit 18 3.5" drives.

I’d love to know this as well. Dell doesn’t have anything remotely close to what Backblaze was designing/building themselves. So did they do something custom (unlikely at this volume) or did Backblaze change their hardware approach?

They do since last year - https://www.servethehome.com/dell-emc-poweredge-xe7100-100-d...

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#65

Any idea what Dell is actually selling them? The DVR's we buy (Avigilon) are white Dell 7x0's with a custom white bezel, but those only fit 18 3.5" drives.

Dell's densest server is the PowerEdge XE7100 [1] (100 3.5" drives in 5U) but the bezel cover picture looks like more like a standard 2U, maybe a R740xd2 (26 3.5" in 2U).

[1] https://www.delltechnologies.com/asset/en-ae/products/server...

https://www.servethehome.com/dell-emc-poweredge-xe7100-100-d...

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#66
It’s actually interesting to me that backblaze has actually reached a size where global logistics plays a bigger part in costs than the actual servers. (And the servers got cheaper).

Also, Dell and Supermicro have storage servers inspired by the BB Pods.

Glad to see this scrappy company hit this amount of scale; a long way from schucking Hard Drives

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd think they could build a ARM-powered, credit card sized controller for them with a disk breakout card and network IO. PC motherboard and full-sized cards seem like overkill.

A French SDS company, now owned by OVH, did exactly that a few years ago : https://fr.slideshare.net/openio/openio-serverless-storage-7... I don't think they actually sold any.

I have seen some people build Ceph clusters using the HC2 board [1] before. I'm not sure what the performance is like, but it seems like a neat way to scale out storage. The only real shortcoming is that there's a single NIC... If there were two, you could use an HA stack for your network and have a very robust system for very cheap.

[1] https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc2-home-cloud-two/

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

#68
> That’s a trivial number of parts and vendors for a hardware company, but stating the obvious, Backblaze is a software company.

Stating the obvious: Backblaze wants investors to value them like a SaaS company. This blog post suggests they’re more of a logistics and product company— huge capex and depreciating assets on hand. As a customer, I like their product, but they’re no Dropbox. If they would allow personal NAS then I could see them being a software company.

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Given the bandwidth of 60+ hard drives (150MB/s per hard drive x 60 == 9GB/s in/out) Given their scale and goal, it would be pretty wasteful to build it to max the writing speed of all hard drives. Considering you rarely write on the pod, you would be better of getting a fraction of that speed and writing on multiple pods at the same time to get the required peak performance. In fact actually that makes much more s…

Definitely limited by the 1gbps or even 10gbs network connection

Any pod like this would normally have at least 1x40gbps uplink minimum?

Like most blade setups, like (random example): https://www.storagereview.com/review/supermicro-x11-microbla...

Re: The Next Backblaze Storage Pod

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely limited by the 1gbps or even 10gbs network connection

Any pod like this would normally have at least 1x40gbps uplink minimum? Like most blade setups, like (random example): https://www.storagereview.com/review/supermicro-x11-microbla...

Storage Pod 6.0 seems to be 2x10Gbps Ethernet: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-serv...
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