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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#61

Anyone has a good guess why Microsoft needed to bump the version? All of these updates seems something that can be easily updated to Windows 10 in several or one half year update. Is this something related to it's corporate clients or licensing services? Really can't understand why a need to create a new version with so much hype, when they've announced in the past that W10 will be the last Windows version.

Maybe they had to now that macOS finally arrived at version 11 as well ;)

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #40

Developers can use their own payment systems, and MS take nothing. That's a bit of a kick in the teeth to Apple.

Did something change? (Windows users/developers have always been able to use various distribution systems... likewise for macOS.

I might be wrong (not a developer), but I thought within the official stores, in-app purchases were subject to 30%, as standard, going to the platform provider. At least that's what I understand with regard to Apple and Google stores.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#63

Anyone has a good guess why Microsoft needed to bump the version? All of these updates seems something that can be easily updated to Windows 10 in several or one half year update. Is this something related to it's corporate clients or licensing services? Really can't understand why a need to create a new version with so much hype, when they've announced in the past that W10 will be the last Windows version.

They wanted to drop support for quite some old hardware, like 32-bit only machines, which are no longer supported in Windows 11.

(and some newer ones too, rumours say that a TPM might be mandatory to have, finally)

Dumping support for HW and major UX changes without bumping the version number is a bad idea.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #5

Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?

The entire idea of a start menu just seems crazy to me at this point especially when it's being used to advertise garbage. Why would I mouse around when I can hotkey?

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#66
So many questions…

Will Win10 users be able to upgrade to Win11 for free or will they have to buy it?

What’s the end-of-life date for Win10 now?

Will the minimum hardware requirements be increased?

Will this be used as an opportunity to make backwards-compatibility-breaking improvements?

Are they actually going to fix the whole UI or just 80% of it and leave the remaining 20% as sedimentary layers of previous UIs?

And I really really really hope they fix Teams’ performance and stability issues before bundling it with the OS and running it continuously.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#67
I think most people scratch their heads when they hear Windows 11 because it seems like the same Windows but skinned with a slightly new UI. This is also from a company which puts function over form.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

#68

Anyone has a good guess why Microsoft needed to bump the version? All of these updates seems something that can be easily updated to Windows 10 in several or one half year update. Is this something related to it's corporate clients or licensing services? Really can't understand why a need to create a new version with so much hype, when they've announced in the past that W10 will be the last Windows version.

I'm betting that getting out of support / lifecycle requirements is part of the major version bump. Internet Explorer 11 support is likely tied to the lifecycle of Windows 10.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #25

> " Microsoft is also integrating Microsoft Teams directly into Windows 11, for both consumers and commercial users. " Not that I have any objections to Teams per se but attempting to drive adoption by bundling got Microsoft in trouble in the IE era; didn't they learn their lesson? Either way, probably the first thing I'll be doing after a fresh install of Windows 11 is uninstalling Teams.

safari/iMessage/Facetime/Maps or every default app on iOS? or any preinstalled and uninstallable app on Android?

Yeah, I thought of this too when I saw the integration, but a lot of things have changed since the antitrust issues at the time. If there's bundling issues, then I don't know.

The one thing I lament though is that using the same platform for work and personal communication tends to trigger some anxiety reflex in me.

I sometimes dread the long "quick call" in Teams, so hearing the call notification even in a video has me looking for my headphones :(

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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post #5

Putting the start menu button in the middle of the panel rather than at a corner seems to forget Fitts' Law. Is this a push to make people use hotkeys more or just bad design?

It's bad design in the sense that they took a part of the operating system that's been in the same place for a quarter century and moved it for seemingly no reason while leaving a bunch of other neglected issues to be dealt with later.

I guess fixing the damned control panel and various settings apps isn't sexy enough.

Frankly this whole update stinks of "oh we hired a bunch of new MBAs and they have to make their mark otherwise they're out of a job".

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