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Just so you know, Middle Eastern folks from Lebanon and Egypt fall under the race of "White" in the US census. Source: https://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-census-middle-east-no...
The US Census categories are incorrect.
At least Census is consistent.
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Perhaps, but I don't think there are even elites at my company with lake houses that they can invite me to for team events - even our directors say they can't afford to vacation in the Hamptons or buy Herman Miller chairs (whereas going to the Boss's $10M house for whisky tasting is seemingly common at Google).
You've missed my point. When you get your first yacht, you'll start to notice all the better yachts with mini yachts. It's never ending.
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yep, discrimination
You could at least explain how it’s unfair to pay less qualified applicants less money?
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“ way for people from unique backgrounds to enter into the software engineering field with less stringent interview requirements” - sounds like discrimination and should be illegal. meanwhile, people in their 40s are dealing with leetcode BS to get a reasonable position with that sort of compensation even though they have an extensive track record.
>sounds like discrimination discrimination can either be legal or illegal. google legally discriminates by giving offers to those who get the hiring committee's approval. i think getting the hiring committee's approval is a form of legal discrimination.
“don’t be evil”
That's insane. The residency program is a way for people from unique backgrounds to enter into the software engineering field with less stringent interview requirements. SWE can pay upwards of $500-600k after 5-10 years of experience. This was an incredible opportunity and it's an absolute shame that internal protests killed it. Yes, you get less pay and a smaller stock refresh, but I know a few people who's careers…
> SWE can pay upwards of $500-600k after 5-10 years of experience. Just like stores have "up to" 70% discounts. One item is marked off that much, and the rest are given modest discounts. We shouldn't normalize this number as some plain old average, it'd be aspirational for many.
Using StackOverflow's [0] aggregated statistics of pay based on experience + location we can get some rough estimates
Over a 5 to 10 year span as a developer at Google you'd probably touch: Java, Golang, C++, Python, and some part of GCP (or very similar tech). Pay is also different from market location so if we look only at the USA we can look at SF and Manhattan.
5 years:
- NYC 25% 96k, 50% 126k, 75% 166k
- SF 25% 113k, 50% 149k, 75% 197k
- NYC 25% 107k, 50% 141k, 75% 186k
- SF 25% 126k, 50% 166k, 75% 219k
Some more data can be gleamed from here: https://www.levels.fyi/
500k+ is L6+, while very difficult to obtain, seems doable if you are determined, know your stuff, know how to find the "right" projects, and are also an inspiring leader.
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Hi rejectedandsad, I'm making my first comment on Hackernews because I saw your remark. I would encourage you to seek help for this negative thinking or at the very least reflect. I promise the majority of people in society do not view you as subhuman for working at Amazon. This is really an irrational thought. Based on your post history I think you are beating yourself up over a non issue. You're working at a top co…
While I appreciate that and I've been working on it, it seems that whatever I do I just see more evidence for it - the $70k wage cut to not associate with people like me, the significantly lower social class and standard of living people like me have all weighs on me pretty heavily these days.
Amazon have one of the most trusted brands in America, rivaling Google in how people view them.
It's your life, so you're welcome to feel as you will, but if it's on inaccuracies then you're just hurting yourself.
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Using an anecdote from one person doesn't actually prove the point you made in the first line. If you can find repeated cases of over-reactions from Googlers over multiple months/years, then you might have evidence to support your argument.
The James demore event is another data point here. His "misogynist manifesto" basically said that google should implement policies that make the workplace better for everyone not just women or whatever minority. I believe one suggestion was to be more flexible with work hours and work from home. This policy helps everyone but has the biggest impact on mother's.
This is wrong and actual misogyny, and does not get a pass because he framed it as a debate.
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You could at least explain how it’s unfair to pay less qualified applicants less money?
It's bold to assume that the Google interview process accepts all qualified applicants.