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"I don't like writing, I like having written." - Ernest Hemingway
Is there a source for that Hemingway quote?
Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
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Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#62Now we only need to know where _why is working.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#63Interesting note: With Rasmus Lerdorf working at WePay, this means the creators of the two most presently popular web programming languages, Ruby and PHP, are now working for YC companies. (Which is a teency stretch since Heroku is now SalesForce and hence no longer really a YC company, but we'll count them to keep it interesting.)
Hmm, hate to knock the steam out of my own post, but it seems Lerdorf was only at WePay for one year and left in April: http://www.linkedin.com/in/rlerdorf
"Architecture, API, OAuth, Fraud work." - http://www.linkedin.com/in/rlerdorf
Anybody knows the truth on "Fraud work"?
Edit: "Fraud work" at WePay (YC)
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
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I'd love to know how Ruby is one of the two most popular web programming languages. I love ruby but from what I see here in NYC, I'd say python is more popular. Are we trading anecdotes here? Or is that two most popular based on a metric from somewhere?
Yeah, without some numbers it's hard to exclude Python here.
And, as sad as it is, Java and C# which are heavyweights of pretty much anything corporate-produced.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#65I remember when RubyGems got forked as SlimGems, there was a discussion about Rails' importance in the overall Ruby community. patio11 wrote: I use Rails, and love Rails, but back home Rails is not yet the core Ruby use case, not by a long shot. Rails has peculiar needs with regards to typical Ruby applications, and a certain portion of the developer community feels that people who write themselves peculiar needs can…
I don't think matz was ever unaware of how important rails is. But what I assume patio11 meant is that most of the japanese devs may not have that as a priority, changing the priorities of a single person would not change much.
Although it's a pretty important single person, and may bring much greater awareness of the "westerner" ruby community among core developers.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#66This is totally awesome, and is a huge boon for both Heroku and Ruby, but I'd much prefer to see them hire Rich Hickey or Guido van Rossum or Martin Odersky or ...well, the list goes on. Heroku is already knows Ruby cold, they should be on-boarding the people that can help them bring their A-game to other platforms. I look forward to a world where I can ask myself the question "which platform is quickest to get up an…
Well they have the Ring dude for clojure so...
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#67Interesting note: With Rasmus Lerdorf working at WePay, this means the creators of the two most presently popular web programming languages, Ruby and PHP, are now working for YC companies. (Which is a teency stretch since Heroku is now SalesForce and hence no longer really a YC company, but we'll count them to keep it interesting.)
Ruby isn't as popular as python, java, or javascript, http://langpop.com/ , where did you get your data from?
I love it when I don't even have to promote my site myself in these discussions, thanks:-)
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#68Great move! Congrats to Heroku.
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
#69Wow. I like the idea of Heroku going the same way as EngineYard. And investing in technology. But dreww is correct, he's keeping his other positions so is this merely a marketing and bragging rights thing?
'Marketing and bragging rights' sounds critical to me. In an interview[1][2], Matz describes it this way:
>> He [Mark Benioff, CEO of Salesforce] said he could provide us some support and that's why I decided to join Salesforce.com through Heroku (Note: Several members of Ruby Core are currently under negotiation to join Heroku).
>> So, the core of our work will not change. Our mission is to develop Ruby Core, to make Ruby more functional and higher quality. Having said that, I am expecting that the job security we are being provided and Ruby usage feedback we get from heavy Ruby users such as Heroku will accelerate the progress of Ruby development. Otherwise, there would be no point to accepting the offer.
The "support" there refers to a conversation between Benioff and Matz where Matz said a primary concern of his was for Ruby devs who either work on Ruby in their spare time or worry about job security. It sounds like Salesforce is committed to helping by hiring multiple Ruby-core devs. I think that's very real support, not just PR of any kind.
[1] http://blog.new-bamboo.co.uk/2011/7/12/translation-of-matz-q...
[2] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2757134 (HN thread on the Matz interview (so far, no comments)
Re: Matz (creator of Ruby) joins Heroku
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Doesn't Rasmus Lerdorf "hate" programming, though?[1] I don't think he's on the same "level" as Matz regarding their languages and the passion behind them because of this. "There are people who actually like programming. I don't understand why they like programming." [1] http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Rasmus_Lerdorf
I totally lack context, here, but when I saw that quote, my first thought was, "With the tastes you showed in creating PHP, it's no wonder you hate programming."
It is very easy to bash him but he must have done something right and he deserves the credit for it.