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Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by chrismorgan »

lokedhs wrote: post #48
chrismorgan wrote: post #15

I just took a look at this for my own account. It has me associated with India; I’m Australian, but spent just over a year in India recently. I have never received any notification like the one cited in this article. (Perhaps because it wouldn’t affect which company service is offered through? But the laws may still differ.) And as far as Google Play Store is concerned, I’m American for some completely unknown reason…

I was curious what country Google associates with me, and this is what I see: As shown in Google’s Terms of Service, your account is associated with the following country: . It seems there are things Google don't know about me, even though I'm not making this information secret.

Same for me, but they say “As shown in Google’s Terms of Service”, and that link https://policies.google.com/terms?authuser= does show the country (see and possibly click on the text “Country version”).

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by jiveturkey »

floatingatoll wrote: post #8

Can EU citizens living in Malaysia long-term exercise their GDPR rights when Google decides that they reside in Malaysia?

It's irrelevant where Google decides they reside. It only matters where they actually reside. Your question is a fair one, but it's pretty thin and is therefore trivially answered by a Google search.

https://www.compliancejunction.com/does-gdpr-apply-to-eu-cit...

> When an individual leaves an EU country and goes to a non-EU country, they are no longer safeguarded by GDPR.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by axlee »

ajross wrote: post #56
masklinn wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well... is the author actually in Maylasia or Germany? It seems rather clear that the author is physically in Malaysia. > I mean, that matters. Kinda but kinda not? If you're an american citizen and for some reason go spend 6 months or a year in Malaysia, you probably don't want your accounts to be switched over to Malaysia, and possibly Malaysian, a language you probably do not speak.

Localization settings are distinct from location, they're just defaults. You can read Google in German right here in the US, etc... The author was concerned about losing privacy protection offered by Google to people in Germany as required by German law. Which is nonsensical, because German law does nothing to protect you in Maylasia .

I'm curious if he will then complain about not paying Malaysian tax rates while living in Germany. You want to be protected by the EU's privacy laws? Live in Europe, it's that simple. Sure, he will find fewer dreamy beaches and cheap food, but he can't have his cake and eat it too.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by anonymousab »

codegladiator wrote: post #45
karaterobot wrote: post #40

If he lives in Germany, and they mistakenly changed his location to Malaysia, I understand his complaint. But, you can't just say "I want you to treat me as though I lived in a different country than I do, because I prefer their laws on this particular subject". Granted, I wish Google's approach to privacy was better all around, but given that they want to gobble up as much data as possible, and we all know about tha…

> you can't just say "I want you to treat me as though I lived in a different country than I do, because I prefer their laws on this particular subject why not ?

Because the laws of the country you are in dictate how Google must treat you as a customer or user, and not your preference of how you'd like them to treat you.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by _nalply »

jsnell wrote: post #29
ketamine__ wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If someone rents an Airbnb for a few months in a new location are they now a resident of that new location? If we aren't talking about residency then changing an association (whatever that means) seems arbitrary.

Why do you think this is a matter of a few months? All we know is that the author hasn't traveled "recently". But yes, those kinds of thresholds are common when it comes to residency as an official concept for e.g. taxation. Usually the threshold is around 183 days, but there is no reason why it'd be obviously less arbitrary than other choices.

Where do you have this strange number from? The factorization is 3 * 61.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by chki »

ipaddr wrote: post #60
chki wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, that's not correct. As an EU citizen living abroad, using non-EU based services, the GDPR will not apply. It would also be impossible to enforce something like that.

The GDPR does apply to non-EU based services but no enforcement is possible. So it doesn't matter where you live if the service is out of reach of this law.

>The GDPR does apply to non-EU based services

That's only correct with regards to the processing of data subjects who are in the European Union. See Art. 3.2 of the GDPR.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by Wingy »

_nalply wrote: post #65
jsnell wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think this is a matter of a few months? All we know is that the author hasn't traveled "recently". But yes, those kinds of thresholds are common when it comes to residency as an official concept for e.g. taxation. Usually the threshold is around 183 days, but there is no reason why it'd be obviously less arbitrary than other choices.

Where do you have this strange number from? The factorization is 3 * 61.

It’s 365 / 2, ~half of a year :)

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by __zack »

_nalply wrote: post #65
jsnell wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think this is a matter of a few months? All we know is that the author hasn't traveled "recently". But yes, those kinds of thresholds are common when it comes to residency as an official concept for e.g. taxation. Usually the threshold is around 183 days, but there is no reason why it'd be obviously less arbitrary than other choices.

Where do you have this strange number from? The factorization is 3 * 61.

It’s just over half a year

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by dpwm »

waych wrote: post #46

Xoogler here. The way I remember this working is that it is entirely dependent on the methods of payment (MOP) associated with your account. If you remove MOPs from country A, and then 30 days later you add a MOP from country B, your underlying gaia account will have the home country migrated (affects play store, etc). The workaround is to use different accounts, each with MOP from different countries. Pretty sure IP…

Never worked at google, but I use their services and moved country recently.

> The workaround is to use different accounts, each with MOP from different countries. Pretty sure IP doesn't matter.

Maybe it has changed, because this was not my experience: my methods of payments have all remained the same. It appears to be based on IP, because my transition was delayed compared to family members who moved with me because I had VPNed back to the country I had left. I’m pretty sure it was IP based, because the relative delay approximately correlated with how many days I’d used the VPN for.

Re: An unwanted update to your Google Account

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Post by cldellow »

_nalply wrote: post #65
jsnell wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think this is a matter of a few months? All we know is that the author hasn't traveled "recently". But yes, those kinds of thresholds are common when it comes to residency as an official concept for e.g. taxation. Usually the threshold is around 183 days, but there is no reason why it'd be obviously less arbitrary than other choices.

Where do you have this strange number from? The factorization is 3 * 61.

As others have said, it's half of a year.

But most importantly, it's the number that the US government uses on form 8840, the Closer Connection Exception Statement for Aliens: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8840.pdf

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