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Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's called "revenue policing" and the only people who like it are the people high status enough to not be subject to it.

> the only people who like it are the people high status enough to not be subject to it Everyone at the SEC is keenly aware that bagging a high-ranking financier is a ticket to higher office.

Which is quite frankly disgusting even if society does have a somewhat merited hatred of bankers.

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

#62

White collar crimes are barely punished - what a joke. Insider trading isn’t larceny, but for the sake of conversation let’s say it was - 1 million in insider trading would be like 4000 counts of grand larceny, each of which carry a max fine of 25K each. If people were actually fined 100 million for 1 million of insider trading I bet you it’d stop happening. For comparison $250 or more stolen is grand larceny and has…

Part of the challenge of fining someone is, to fine them in such a way that it is painful, and achievable. Fining someone 100million for 1 million in trading would be a punishment that no one would be able to pay back. Also, would just immediately invoke a chapter 13 bankruptcy, which I think, would discharge these. So basically you would just be issuing public bankruptcy with such extreme amounts.

fraud penalties are not dischargeable. I'm not sure if this sort of penalty is a "fraud penalty," but you could structure a fine where it's with you for life.

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

#64

For anything worth securing we have security engineered into it, like passwords, encryption what not. But for insider trading we are just supposed to assume that the players play right without any checks or balances? I don't think just the SEC is sufficient to prevent this.

How would you go about adding DRM to insider information to prevent trading on it?

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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> Bannon agreed to pay a civil penalty of $281,497, Rauch agreed to pay a civil penalty of $128,230, and Ramaiya agreed to pay a civil penalty of $65,780. Sood also consented to the entry of a final judgment and agreed to pay a civil penalty of $178,320. So the SEC claims they found $1.7M in insider trading, and they only collect $700K. This assumes the ring didn't do more. No wonder bigger players do this in size. W…

God forbid if you steal a pack of gum, have an oz of weed or write a bad check though.

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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This is how the SEC spends its resources? This is considered newsworthy? $2M is considered material in 2021? If they'd been in charge of the WW2 military, instead of Omaha Beach, we'd have a press release about one random dead Nazi.

The SEC has a habit of going after all sorts of small fry. My favourite is when they went after this moron who made $3100 off call options by performing this elaborate scam to make it seem like Fitbit was being acquired.

The guy is a class A dummkopf since he performed all this easily traceable nonsense for a miserable $3100. But it's still only $3100 hahaha. The only thing the press release is good for is for entertainment.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2017-107

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's called "revenue policing" and the only people who like it are the people high status enough to not be subject to it.

> the only people who like it are the people high status enough to not be subject to it Everyone at the SEC is keenly aware that bagging a high-ranking financier is a ticket to higher office.

Can we come up with an example of an SEC official building upon an investigation of a "high-ranking financier" in order to obtain high office?

Re: Six charged in Silicon Valley insider trading ring

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> Bannon agreed to pay a civil penalty of $281,497, Rauch agreed to pay a civil penalty of $128,230, and Ramaiya agreed to pay a civil penalty of $65,780. Sood also consented to the entry of a final judgment and agreed to pay a civil penalty of $178,320. So the SEC claims they found $1.7M in insider trading, and they only collect $700K. This assumes the ring didn't do more. No wonder bigger players do this in size. W…

I saw the name Rauch and my heart sank!

Thank goodness it didn't go the way I thought it did for a second there.

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