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Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by jkcxn »

gruez wrote: post #56
ribs wrote: post #34

I’ve always considered Apple’s scrolling acceleration to be among its most important features. For, like, 30 years. Since the Mac debuted. But I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that someone out there wants to disable it.

Last time I used a mac with a scroll wheel mouse, I found the scroll acceleration to be rage inducing. If I was slowly turning the wheel (eg. reading through an article), it would scroll one or two lines on the screen, or maybe nothing at all. If I scrolled faster the speed would ramp up and cause me to scroll past half the page. All the muscle memory I had from linear scroll wheels (ie. windows/linux) was basically…

Were you using firefox by any chance? I get this on firefox after switching from chrome and its so annoying. no idea how to turn it off. every other scrollview in osx works fine but mozilla must have made changes to it

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by pimlottc »

throwawayboise wrote: post #33
jagger27 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have always been able to reverse the scroll direction in the Mouse/Trackpad options. It’s a checkbox that says “Scroll direction: Natural”. As for your jumping issue that sounds like a hardware problem. It might just be that your mouse wheel is dirty.

It's struck me as peculiar but with a trackpad or a mouse the "drag down to move screen content up" feels natural, but on a touch-screen, phone, or tablet it's the opposite. So on a Mac I always have to change the default trackpad preference.

I think it makes sense for touchscreen scrolling to work the way it does, but for mouse, I don’t think either way is really more natural, it’s just what you’re used to. I used the “old” way in Windows and Linux for years, but it was pretty easy to “relearn” when I switched to Mac.

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by gruez »

lilyball wrote: post #59
gruez wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I used a mac with a scroll wheel mouse, I found the scroll acceleration to be rage inducing. If I was slowly turning the wheel (eg. reading through an article), it would scroll one or two lines on the screen, or maybe nothing at all. If I scrolled faster the speed would ramp up and cause me to scroll past half the page. All the muscle memory I had from linear scroll wheels (ie. windows/linux) was basically…

Could your mouse have had built-in scroll acceleration?

It's a logitech mouse, and works expected on windows. Also, I've never encountered a mouse with scroll acceleration, all of them scroll the same amount of lines per "click", regardless of how fast you turn the wheel.

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by gruez »

monkpit wrote: post #57
gruez wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I used a mac with a scroll wheel mouse, I found the scroll acceleration to be rage inducing. If I was slowly turning the wheel (eg. reading through an article), it would scroll one or two lines on the screen, or maybe nothing at all. If I scrolled faster the speed would ramp up and cause me to scroll past half the page. All the muscle memory I had from linear scroll wheels (ie. windows/linux) was basically…

It feels natural if you’re using Mac hardware, like a Magic Mouse or the trackpad.

maybe my muscle memory is different for touchpads, but the difference between scrollwheel on mac vs windows is significantly more jarring than touchpad on mac vs windows.

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by gruez »

jkcxn wrote: post #61
gruez wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I used a mac with a scroll wheel mouse, I found the scroll acceleration to be rage inducing. If I was slowly turning the wheel (eg. reading through an article), it would scroll one or two lines on the screen, or maybe nothing at all. If I scrolled faster the speed would ramp up and cause me to scroll past half the page. All the muscle memory I had from linear scroll wheels (ie. windows/linux) was basically…

Were you using firefox by any chance? I get this on firefox after switching from chrome and its so annoying. no idea how to turn it off. every other scrollview in osx works fine but mozilla must have made changes to it

It's been a while since I last used a mouse on a mac, but it definitely wasn't limited to a single app.

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by akiselev »

jkcxn wrote: post #61
gruez wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last time I used a mac with a scroll wheel mouse, I found the scroll acceleration to be rage inducing. If I was slowly turning the wheel (eg. reading through an article), it would scroll one or two lines on the screen, or maybe nothing at all. If I scrolled faster the speed would ramp up and cause me to scroll past half the page. All the muscle memory I had from linear scroll wheels (ie. windows/linux) was basically…

Were you using firefox by any chance? I get this on firefox after switching from chrome and its so annoying. no idea how to turn it off. every other scrollview in osx works fine but mozilla must have made changes to it

I believe the settings you're looking for are documented here [1] (go to url `about:config`)

[1] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/AcceleratedScrolli...

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by brundolf »

ribs wrote: post #34

I’ve always considered Apple’s scrolling acceleration to be among its most important features. For, like, 30 years. Since the Mac debuted. But I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that someone out there wants to disable it.

It's great for touch-based scrolling, it's terrible for a clicky wheel

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by Jare »

pimlottc wrote: post #62
throwawayboise wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's struck me as peculiar but with a trackpad or a mouse the "drag down to move screen content up" feels natural, but on a touch-screen, phone, or tablet it's the opposite. So on a Mac I always have to change the default trackpad preference.

I think it makes sense for touchscreen scrolling to work the way it does, but for mouse, I don’t think either way is really more natural, it’s just what you’re used to. I used the “old” way in Windows and Linux for years, but it was pretty easy to “relearn” when I switched to Mac.

For me, relearning the scroll direction on the touchpad was trivial, however on the wheel it just never worked at all.

Re: LinearMouse – A minimal app to get rid of scrolling acceleration on macOS

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Post by vladvasiliu »

gruez wrote: post #63
lilyball wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could your mouse have had built-in scroll acceleration?

It's a logitech mouse, and works expected on windows. Also, I've never encountered a mouse with scroll acceleration, all of them scroll the same amount of lines per "click", regardless of how fast you turn the wheel.

Some Logitech models (possibly not all) have a "high resolution" scroll wheel which reports events differently. Out of the box it's off, but it can be enabled on windows with the provided software. Not sure if windows by itself can enable it. I'm also not sure what the situation is on the mac.

A quick search didn't yield any interesting info on this, it's mostly articles about its support on linux (spoiler: it's been deactivated).

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