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Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Personally I don't think so. Every time I download and install from an Windows ISO it seems worse. Right out of the bat there is a page where you need to uncheck all the spyware crap and there are so many it scrolls. They also make it so a normal local user is presented like a somewhat inferior experience than their web login. Then you have to fill in obligatory 3 recovery questions even if you are confident in your…

The only thing I really notice is the settings ... app, box, thing, (not sure what to call it even) is wonky. Seems to get wonky-er all the time. But I'm hardly ever in there. That's really the major change I notice. The little UI changes in menu or task bar I find easy enough to just adjust and so forth whenever I need to do so. Mostly I just turn them off and doing so doesn't really bother me.

That reminds me there are two control panels. One with the trendy web page style (the pretty one) and the other using the old Windows 7 style (the useful control panel).

And I suspect they know its terrible. What other reason would they reserve the the good stuff like the LTSC version to premium enterprise contracts? People who purchase and run Windows Pro and Windows Home are literally paying to feed the monstrous Microsoft telemetry machine. And that's also the reason they don't care anymore if you ever register and activate.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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there are people on this cursed earth who roll with windows 2000 on prod, you know?

Probably the last good version of Windows. I have fond memories of Windows 2000. Everything after it, not so much.

The last good version of Windows? The last good version of Windows was CP/M.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Actually I don’t think it is. Microsoft promise way ahead of time, fail to deliver, reduce scope, kick out a broken half finished product, get the customers to beta test it, change their mind on the direction of the entire organisation in that space and generally leave everyone confused and a bit burned out. This happens every time and has done for the last 20 years. Even the latest reinvention has just increased the…

You've basically described every software company in history.

That’s a fair point actually

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Most marketing is.

Actually I don’t think it is. Microsoft promise way ahead of time, fail to deliver, reduce scope, kick out a broken half finished product, get the customers to beta test it, change their mind on the direction of the entire organisation in that space and generally leave everyone confused and a bit burned out. This happens every time and has done for the last 20 years. Even the latest reinvention has just increased the…

Microsoft lets you pirate their OS for free, you ungrateful punk.

Enjoy dropping 3000$ for an equivalent Apple system.

I'm sure you'll find the marketing from Cupertino to be more accurate. Wait, they are the quintessential company built on marketing..

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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My personal theory is that Microsoft probably thought Apple would stay on 10 forever, but with M1 macOS moved to 11. 11 > 10...

I thought the only reason they went from 8 to 10 was because "Windows 9" might be a match for application regexs trying to match Windows 9x. Edit: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/191279-why-is-it-calle...

That was a big part of it. I know a lot of software did the lazy check for that versioning-wise back in the day.

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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> There is little doubt that the system will be called Windows 11, but it may still not be so. For some reason my gut says it won't be called Windows 11. I have a feeling it will be called something confusing or unappealing. Love MS products but they always fell short with branding.

What do you mean? Microsoft has always been clear and unambiguous with their naming and branding. Everyone can clearly tell the difference between the Xbox, Xbox One, Xbox One X, Xbox One S, Xbox Series X, and Xbox Series S. No possible confusion there!

No love for 360 I see...

Re: Microsoft support page says Windows 10 “retirement date” is 2025

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Yep, shows thumbnails for pictures, videos, pdfs etc. More formats than Windows in fact. Windows has been standing still, the rest of the world hasn't. EDIT: I used "Files", not the file picker.

Thumbnail preview is a _massive_ attack surface. All those RCEs in JPEGs, MP4s, PDFs etc are now potentially immediately executed upon displaying the file. No thanks.

See, the nice thing about Linux is that you can always disable what you don't like. You're never just helplessly subject to the whims of the developers.
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