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Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by Traster »

kiawe_fire wrote: post #26
xanaxagoras wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me reddit lost sight of why I used the site about 3 years ago, or maybe that's just when it got bad enough that I no longer felt unsubscribing from all defaults was a suitable solution. There's really nowhere left to hide from the rigorous enforcement of orthodox leftist thought. It's mostly a mutual admiration society where the boundaries of allowed disagreement and interesting discussion may touch here and ther…

I started engaging with Reddit about 3 years ago, right on the verge of things going downhill. So I’m not sure how much of this is normal over Reddit’s whole. But I did notice a shift in the political boards to a mean-spirited alt-left attitude. Whatever, politics are needlessly divisive right now. But as I got more into other subreddits, the same attitude seems to be there too. Make an objective statement even remot…

I think it’s missing the point to say it’s alt-left. In the Uk side of things it was always true r uk was left and r ukpolitics was right, and then there was a fascinating shift in various ways during election times. But either way the core of the issue was just that whatever the prevailing view is drives out disagreements.

Twitter is bad because bubbles form and then they collide causing fights. Reddit solves this by making the bubbles much stronger and ensuring they never collide.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by jayd16 »

xanaxagoras wrote: post #21
Rebelgecko wrote: post #17

Maybe I'm not the typical user, but to me reddit seems to be losing sight of why people use the site. They're killing aspects of the community that people actually care about. In the meantime, most of the site's new features seem to be centered around avatars and selling cosmetic microtransactions. I can't blame them too much for trying to monetize, but I wish their strategies were more inclusive of the way I use red…

For me reddit lost sight of why I used the site about 3 years ago, or maybe that's just when it got bad enough that I no longer felt unsubscribing from all defaults was a suitable solution. There's really nowhere left to hide from the rigorous enforcement of orthodox leftist thought. It's mostly a mutual admiration society where the boundaries of allowed disagreement and interesting discussion may touch here and ther…

>There's really nowhere left to hide from the rigorous enforcement of orthodox leftist thought.

Whats your thought on sites like voat that were seen as escapes but immediately turned into cesspools and then ghost towns?

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by dageshi »

Rebelgecko wrote: post #17

Maybe I'm not the typical user, but to me reddit seems to be losing sight of why people use the site. They're killing aspects of the community that people actually care about. In the meantime, most of the site's new features seem to be centered around avatars and selling cosmetic microtransactions. I can't blame them too much for trying to monetize, but I wish their strategies were more inclusive of the way I use red…

It got too big. It's the internets default forum, it's actually a testament to the subreddit model that it actually has been able to keep growing without completely going to shit. I know there's people who think it has but there's still plenty of value in subreddits which have a defined purpose and moderate accordingly.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by CyberRabbi »

xanaxagoras wrote: post #21
Rebelgecko wrote: post #17

Maybe I'm not the typical user, but to me reddit seems to be losing sight of why people use the site. They're killing aspects of the community that people actually care about. In the meantime, most of the site's new features seem to be centered around avatars and selling cosmetic microtransactions. I can't blame them too much for trying to monetize, but I wish their strategies were more inclusive of the way I use red…

For me reddit lost sight of why I used the site about 3 years ago, or maybe that's just when it got bad enough that I no longer felt unsubscribing from all defaults was a suitable solution. There's really nowhere left to hide from the rigorous enforcement of orthodox leftist thought. It's mostly a mutual admiration society where the boundaries of allowed disagreement and interesting discussion may touch here and ther…

I used to think this was purely organic and maybe there’s a chance that it is but I think it’s more likely a major shift like that has happened due to years of intentional ringleading by sock-puppets and shills who have a vested interest in managing public opinion. I think it’s inaccurate to call it “leftist,” I would call it a pro-corporate dissent-intolerant ideology.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by toast0 »

gspr wrote: post #48
emodendroket wrote: post #14

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A succinct explanation of why I've never participated in any online secret Santa type of thing.

You do the secret Grinch thing instead?

The beauty of being a Grinch is you don't need to hide it.

I have no birthday, and I don't celebrate gift giving holidays. I don't want any presents, and I won't reciprocate.

I do apprechiate postcards and holiday cards though, but I don't generally send them and I'll feel a little bad about that. Maybe one day, my heart will grow three sizes and I'll start sending a handful of cards.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by Y_Y »

junon wrote: post #54
uDontKnowMe wrote: post #51

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There is a subreddit about this: r/RedditAlternatives. Trouble is, most of them end up being dominated by the alt-right/hate mobs. Interesting that you want something that is specifically not just a reddit knock off. I actually think that a Reddit knock off focussed on discussion (say, like hacker news, but with subreddits) would do well.

This comment doesn't deserve downvotes. I've spent a considerable amount of time trying to find a good alternative without much success. This comment isn't using these labels incorrectly - the people on most of the alternatives post blatantly anti-Semitic and/or legitimately racist content (not ambiguously or twitter-classified racism, but full-on, hard-R et al, good old fashioned racism), anti-vaxxer mobs, doxxing,…

Can't someone take one for the team and set up a place to absorb all of this? It's no fun trying to hang out with someone who's grinding the same old axe every day, especially if it's some lame anti-whoever diatribe.

I don't mind people having whatever views or even irrational and harmful biases, as long as they don't shoehorn them into everything they say. I'm happy to have an interesting discussion with someone who stays on topic and says interesting things, it doesn't matter to me (right then) if I wouldn't think much of other aspects of their life. You don't have to "bring your whole self" to hn or new-reddit or wherever else.

Re: Sunsetting Secret Santa and Reddit Gifts

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Post by Y_Y »

toast0 wrote: post #67
gspr wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do the secret Grinch thing instead?

The beauty of being a Grinch is you don't need to hide it. I have no birthday, and I don't celebrate gift giving holidays. I don't want any presents, and I won't reciprocate. I do apprechiate postcards and holiday cards though, but I don't generally send them and I'll feel a little bad about that. Maybe one day, my heart will grow three sizes and I'll start sending a handful of cards.

I don't like having a birthday either, and I will sometimes give people presents, but I absolutely never want any.

This seems to cause friction though, and maybe represents some kind of personality issue. I don't know why I'm like this or what it might mean though.

For the record, I did secret Santa a couple of times. First time went to a ton of effort to send a nice, appropriate thing (House of Leaves colour hardback) and got nothing. Next time though I sent some crappy thing and received a giant box of Simpsons socks. That was actually really cool.

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