I think apple's in-app ads have the worst dark patterns. I tried to find a game for my elderly mom that didn't try to get you to install some other app every few minutes via a full-screen popup. No dice.
The New York Times uses the dark patterns it derides
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Same with me. In my case, the Economist, who does the same like the New York Times. Subscribing is a click, canceling is a call to a representative who will talk to me about how they "love to discuss a more affordable or flexible subscription option so that you can keep enjoying everything The Economist has to offer" https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/How-do-I-cancel-my...
I remember that same experience, really annoying. These days I’ve been using Privacy.com which generates a one-time use CC for anything that I want to use for the free trial period. (I am in no way affiliated with this service btw, just a happy customer).
Many banks allow you to create a virtual CC.
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For years, every AT&T and Comcast salesperson I talked with quoted me megabytes per second instead of megabits per second. They would insist that they were right if I ever asked them to clarify the units of measurement. One time the salesperson was so sure that he was right that he conferenced in a tech support person…who informed him they did not sell megabytes/second, only megabits. The salesperson was very confuse…
My believe was that this happen as a human error, from non technical persons (not everybody is a CCNA certified or Comptia network plus). For example people will often say give me that liter of wine, when in fact the bottle it’s 750ml and not a liter per se.
"For example people will often say give me that liter of wine, when in fact the bottle it’s 750ml"
No one has ever said this. Ever. In the history of ever.
Wine and spirits in the US were sold as "fifths" or one fifth of a US gallon, equal to 757ml. This became a "metric fifth" or 750ml. No one is even slightly confused by this.
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#64The irony is NYT ran an article chastising Amazon for the very thing they also engage in.
I recently had to call NYT to cancel my membership. The person on the other side ran me through a script, and each time I told them I didn’t want their counter offers. It was annoying.
To be honest here, I canceled my NYT subscription because of the very subtle yet obvious propaganda laced in their articles on a recent news event. They present themselves as honest reporters, when in reality there’s language that in a subtle manner takes a clear side and provides a distorted view of a complex situation.
The honest truth in my opinion is the NYT isn’t honest or more objective than other papers. Yet time and time again, their reporting is viewed as gospel.
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#65Hmm, the author's post contains lots of tracking images/scripts.
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#66I have adopted a zen posture to this sort of hypocrisy which involves believing both these things: 1. It is good to call out hypocrisy like this article does where a publishing entity is engaged in behavior completely contrary to the behavior called for in their published words. 2. It is also good that the reporter’s journalism is sufficiently free (as in freedom) that they are able to write so independently of the b…
The hypocrisy in employees is when they continue to reap the financial benefits of their institutions. The cliche “you can’t expect a person to know a subject if their salary depends on not knowing it.” Ignorance is not a valid excuse when they’ve clearly indicated an outspoken awareness of the problems in the org. The excuse in this case is “instituting change from within”
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#67I've considered actually subscribing to news media but the behaviour of the NYT and a few known others have left me not to trust the entire industry to behave responsibly with a subscription, so I am at least 1 anecdote of someone not subscribing because of knowledge of the cancellation process
I like the NYT for the occasional article. I subscribed for something that interested me, and then I had to chat with a support representative during the NYTs business hours to actually cancel.
Now I just don't read articles from the NYT.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
My believe was that this happen as a human error, from non technical persons (not everybody is a CCNA certified or Comptia network plus). For example people will often say give me that liter of wine, when in fact the bottle it’s 750ml and not a liter per se.
"For example people will often say give me that liter of wine, when in fact the bottle it’s 750ml" No one has ever said this. Ever. In the history of ever. Wine and spirits in the US were sold as "fifths" or one fifth of a US gallon, equal to 757ml. This became a "metric fifth" or 750ml. No one is even slightly confused by this.
There are many countries where litre is the only unit of measurement, perhaps it happened in one of those?
Re: The New York Times uses the dark patterns it derides
#69I have adopted a zen posture to this sort of hypocrisy which involves believing both these things: 1. It is good to call out hypocrisy like this article does where a publishing entity is engaged in behavior completely contrary to the behavior called for in their published words. 2. It is also good that the reporter’s journalism is sufficiently free (as in freedom) that they are able to write so independently of the b…
It's really not alright to step on the pulpit to point fingers left and right when your house is also not in order, it makes it seem more like you're trying to move forward your business agenda rather than really caring about the issue.
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#70The irony is NYT ran an article chastising Amazon for the very thing they also engage in. I recently had to call NYT to cancel my membership. The person on the other side ran me through a script, and each time I told them I didn’t want their counter offers. It was annoying. To be honest here, I canceled my NYT subscription because of the very subtle yet obvious propaganda laced in their articles on a recent news even…
>call NYT to cancel my membership
if you can sign up for the membership online. there is no reason to call anyone to cancel. Netflix is by far the best subscription service. i have sub, unsub and resub several time with just few clicks.