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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by Rooster61 »

tra3 wrote: post #38
Rooster61 wrote: post #9

Folks I know that have owned Ford vehicles in the past few years have done nothing but complain about issues with electrical subsystem and accessory breakdown. I'd be very wary of buying a Ford period, much less one that relies entirely on electricity to move. Not FUD, as I have no dog in the fight and personally don't care if anyone else buys one, but its a make of automobile I avoid.

American vehicles had a history of poor quality control and reliability but it's improved in the last 20 years. F150 is the #1 selling truck in USA in Canada. Our 2011 F150 has been very reliable, mechanically, but the audio wiring is broken in interesting ways. My buddy's older F150 has exactly the same issue. Otherwise it's been trouble free.

I've noticed that in that era of Ford vehicles, including my own. I have a 2006 Mustang that mechanically has been a tank, but electrically has had multiple issues (it's on its 4th alternator). The audio deck has been similarly flakey. They may very well be better nowadays.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by neither_color »

After going through their marketing, and considering the needs of family in the construction industry, I think they've touched on the right use cases here that a tech worker Tesla fan wouldn't be interested in but that tradesmen/contractors do need. My relatives do in fact:

Use the truck bed always and fill it with tools and supplies.

Drive around all day going from job site to job site transferring tools and supplies or meeting with current and prospective clients.

Use electric generators and in fact carry one in their truck bed.

If the onboard generator has enough juice to bring a crew to work and back, while also powering their tools all day I can definitely see contractors getting excited for this truck.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by dash2 »

namdnay wrote: post #4

I guess the fact that's it's electric is a good step. But it seems insane to me that we don't do more to discourage massive consumption of what should be utility vehicles. I'm willing to be 80% of people buying an f150 or similar never have been and never will be building contractors or lumberjacks.

Yeah, +1 this. I mean, if you're genuinely in the country pulling logs, or even just in the US, then fine. People drive around my tiny country town in England in these tanks. I just find it obnoxious. It's wasteful and it's intimidating for others on the road. And it starts an arms race, because now being in a small car you can't see past other drivers and you feel more vulnerable.

Saddest emblem of modern Eurocapitalism that I know: the BMW "Mini". It's a vast, charmless travesty of the original.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by dubcanada »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #27
dubcanada wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, so you're against cars? I am confused as to what any of that has to do with the new electric F-150.

EVs are heavier by nature (this vehicle’s battery pack alone is ~1800 lbs). Your average driver is not good at driving. The F150 sells very well. Ergo, more risk of more property damage and human harm. You can’t get around physics. More mass with more force carries more risk.

Ya I get that, but the statement is a society/government issue and has nothing to do with Ford.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by FridayoLeary »

tw04 wrote: post #21
seanalltogether wrote: post #7

I'm sure this image is heavily photoshopped, but it looks like they're trying to make a center console that's half touch screen, half physical controls. I wonder what that will look like in reality. https://www.ford.com/is/image/content/dam/vdm_ford/live/en_u...

It's not half and half, it's touchscreen with a physical volume knob which in my opinion is the right way . Having touch controls for volume is a horrible idea (my car has touch control for everything and I despise trying to get the volume adjusted quickly). https://i.imgur.com/Lw4GgNW.jpeg

>Having touch controls for volume is a horrible idea

I second that. This also applies to heater controls and lighting and almost everything else that i can't think of. The benefit of the tactility of physical buttons and switches is sadly being coldly ignored by those who design our cars.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Post by greenonions »

defaultname wrote: post #11

The aspect I'm most curious about is towing range. I have a 5000lb travel trailer that I tow about 200km away a few times a year. I'm pretty sure I'd be out of luck with a vehicle like this. It has the ability to pull the trailer with ease, but most preliminary estimates are that range would be two digits with that sort of load. In my current vehicle I do stop for gas midway, but it would be an entirely different sit…

I doubt it would be a very viable choice for recreational towing, but then, that market is probably significantly smaller than the standard truck use-cases.
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