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How many 68K Amiga's still working exist today ???. I don't get it.
Not to mention the emulators out there. It seems everyone wants at least Amiga via emulation, just won't emulate PowerPC Amigas.
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I still have a working Amiga 500 at my parents' house in Germany.
Your parents might be alright, but I've heard a lot of horror stories where parents sell, give away or trash people's old computers. i.e. If you care about it, better keep it close to you.
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I'm amazed that it can be profitable to still develop an OS for those machines!
I'd be surprised if it's profitable. Maybe a labor of love. I've been an Amiga fan since the late 80's. It was my favorite machine. Nothing quite has had the magic of booting up games like Shadow of the Beast or Blood Money. The Amiga was truly a quantum leap.
Anyone interested in a comprehensive summary of the Amiga legal spaghetti should take a look at https://sites.google.com/site/amigadocuments/ Play by play updates on their Twitter at https://mobile.twitter.com/amigadocuments
Is there a summary of the summary? Also, is there any financial value left in that IP? From an outside perspective it looks like people fighting over table scraps.
The financial value of the AmigaOS is nil. Zero. Nothing. At best you could maybe sell copies to enthusiasts, but even tens of thousands of sales wouldn't be enough to hire even a single full-time developer unless you priced it way too high. This would be a poster child for relicensing as Free Software if it weren't for the fact that the OS was tied up in litigation and license double-dealing.
TBH, is the way pretty much all proprietary software dies. Companies holding onto their software through bankruptcy are legally obligated to sell it to whoever will recoup the most money for creditors; but usually their software is already outdated or unusable. So it will almost always get sold to sketchy companies or wind up sitting in some bank's junk assets portfolio for the end of time. Even if that wasn't the case, most proprietary software is actually very much not legally Freeable, because it has other non-Free dependencies. Occasionally, you get an outright miracle like Blender, where the whole app is owned by one bankrupt company and you can crowdsource enough capital to pay off creditors.
(Examples of other abandoned software whose owners' hands are tied would include things like Adobe Flash Player or IBM OS/2.)
OMG, I've waited for this! I was SO worried litigation from Clonato would make all the work by Thomas Richter & Co. go to waste on the finishing line. It's remarkable how litigations are still a thing with the Amiga brand. I don't understand how the profits for the winning party is expected to be greater than the lawyer costs.
I'm puzzled though, because I heard there was Amiga OS 3.5, 3.9, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2.
How come now it's 3.2?
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And, by extension, I'd suggest not fueling the legal drama by funding the lawyers through buying Hyperion's 3.2 or Cloanto's products.
So…who exactly do you buy from, then? That's a semi-serious question; the "Amiga Documents" site linked in the post you're replying to seems to cast Hyperion as the (relative?) villains and Cloanto as the (relative?) good guys, but it seems if you want a version of AmigaOS released this century, that means Hyperion.
Nobody.
>Seems to cast Hyperion as the (relative?) villains and Cloanto as the (relative?) good guys
They're both spending all their cash fighting each other. I support neither.
>but it seems if you want a version of AmigaOS released this century, that means Hyperion.
Support AROS. Copy AmigaOS, don't support it. That is the conclusion I arrived to.
This is one way of many possible: https://www.power2people.org/projects/overview/
The most extraordinary thing here is not only it’s being done, but it’s being done in a proprietary way. The surface of the AmigaOS is tiny in comparison with any modern system. It’s surprising nobody took a free RTOS and built an Amiga API on top of it, enough to fool Amiga software into being compiled for modern hardware and run directly on real Amigas.
When trying to remember its name I also found Apollo OS[2].
[1] https://amigang.com/software-aros/
[2] http://www.apollo-computer.com/apollOS.html
Edit: Looks, like Apollo OS is a fork of AROS that is optimized to run on the original Amiga hardware.
I don't get it, can someone explain? Why would someone release of a modern version of an Amiga operating system for sale on CDROM? Who would use this?
OMG, I've waited for this! I was SO worried litigation from Clonato would make all the work by Thomas Richter & Co. go to waste on the finishing line. It's remarkable how litigations are still a thing with the Amiga brand. I don't understand how the profits for the winning party is expected to be greater than the lawyer costs.
I used Amiga with Amiga OS 3.1. I'm puzzled though, because I heard there was Amiga OS 3.5, 3.9, 4.0, 4.1, 4.2. How come now it's 3.2?
The most extraordinary thing here is not only it’s being done, but it’s being done in a proprietary way. The surface of the AmigaOS is tiny in comparison with any modern system. It’s surprising nobody took a free RTOS and built an Amiga API on top of it, enough to fool Amiga software into being compiled for modern hardware and run directly on real Amigas.
I think that's AROS[1]. When trying to remember its name I also found Apollo OS[2]. [1] https://amigang.com/software-aros/ [2] http://www.apollo-computer.com/apollOS.html Edit: Looks, like Apollo OS is a fork of AROS that is optimized to run on the original Amiga hardware.