Right but abusive and predatory behaviour is STILL abusive and predatory in an oversupply situation.
Please expand on why you think so. Edit: Any why this is the case, in this situation. Please explain? (I'm not from the US - I may be missing something.)
It seems fairly self-explanatory - the oversupply is of individual human workers, not some product. The individual at the bottom of the pyramid is hurt directly. A large business is treating a specific human at the bottom with disrespect. The name of the economic principle at play is morally irrelevant.
I.e. economic shrewdness is not equivalent to morality.
Just because you are able to find someone desperate enough to take up your shitty offer doesn't mean it is the fair market at work. There's a reason labor laws, OSHA, minimum wage etc. exist. This is predatory, period. The irony here is that they wouldn't be able to do this if they just wanted people to act as photographers, not actually take any photos, because the various actors unions wouldn't allow it. Even namel…
Why would you assume they're desperate? If I took a gig like this, I'd be damn sure that: 1) I am included in the rolling credits, 2) I have several cameo shots within the show, 3) I can use thumbnails of my appearances within my own web site and 4) that I am able to use the show's logo and likeness to promote my own business. My site would lead off with : "Award winning photographer. You may have seen my work recent…
fair and fine but all of that can be achieved whilst one is fairly compensated too. It's not a "give here and we'll give you this extra" type of situation, they offered nothing in return because they want it for free, period
I'll do it for the free food. My camera gear is a pocket full of: Fuji X100S and an iPhone XS. For those warm colors I'll even throw in some Nikon D70 photos.
The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…
>I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. When I worked with interns they were all paid... but every one was more time and expense to work with than any value they provided. In weeks they accomplished what I could do in an afternoon, and we spent WAY more than an afternoon of work with them. Amazingly many seemed to have a very high opinion of their productivit…
From the company's point of view, it seems like an internship really ought to be more of a culture fit check than anything else. It's like an extended technical interview in a way: "try on our team for size, see how it fits. Do you like the work? Do we see potential in your skills / productivity?" That sort of thing. Heck, even for experienced engineers there's a spinup time on any large technical endeavor that is sometimes measured in months. How long is a typical internship anyway?
The US continues to support unpaid work in a pretty major way. I think unpaid internships being socially acceptable is one of the roots of this insidious habit. They've been illegal up here in Canada for a while and it hasn't really caused any economic disasters. It'd be a good change to advocate for down there as well. And, honestly, internships aren't free for companies unless there is literally nothing of value be…
I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.
In Washington DC and Hollywood, I think it's pretty common.
I haven't heard of this at all in Silicon Valley though. In fact interns are pretty well paid, $7500/month at my previous company.
I don't know anyone during my time as a student that took an unpaid internship. How common is this? All the internships and jobs my classmates and friends were getting involved an exchange of money for goods/services. Who is taking an unpaid internship and why? edit: I'm not sure why I'm being downvoted for not having been exposed to this. If you're willing to take an unpaid internship it's your own fault.
In Washington DC and Hollywood, I think it's pretty common. I haven't heard of this at all in Silicon Valley though. In fact interns are pretty well paid, $7500/month at my previous company.
Speaking of DC aren’t all government internships unpaid?
I might get downvoted for that, I still gonna say it: That might be due to the demand-supply situation in photography. They probably will find photographers doing this for the promotion effect described in the email.
This is less about "can" and more about "should". It's bad for everybody when professionals work "for publicity" or are encouraged to do so, despite the relative innocence of the professional who chooses to do so. For the least subtle take on this possible, see: https://youtu.be/mj5IV23g-fE
The amusing irony of that video is that he mostly likely asked to get paid for that interview and now it's on YouTube for free, giving him exposure. :)