4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google • Hacker News Board

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by whymauri » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:40 PM UTC

beaconstudios wrote: post #23

_lffv wrote: post #18

> Poole's 4chan is an anonymous, ephemeral imageboard that is often given the title "cesspool of the Internet." The site is broken up into boards of various topics, and some of the more lawless boards are home to all of the worst characters on the Internet, like school shooters, child pornographers, and racists. It's also the birthplace of a lot of Internet culture, like Rickrolling, lolcats, and, more recently, Pepe…

you'd think this would be common knowledge given 4chan is literally an open website, but I always hear these mythologised recountings of it like it's some kind of mysterious inaccessible cult. It's just reddit for people who hate reddit.

>like it's some kind of mysterious inaccessible cult.

It's pretty interesting, because as long as I've been conscious on the Internet it's always been posed as an 'inaccessible cult.' Probably due to all the inside jokes, I guess?

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by chad_strategic » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:42 PM UTC

chad_strategic wrote: post #25

russdpale wrote: post #17

Literal definition of failing upwards. He isn't a boy genuis, he copied code from japanese websites and then fostered one of the most toxic communities in human history. At google, he took a job from someone who was almost certainly way more qualified, both technically and morally.

> At google, he took a job from someone who was almost certainly way more qualified, both technically and morally. Get the impression you work at google?

I'm always perplexed that I get down-voted. Seems like a reasonable question. The reason I asked the question, well because I was curious to see if the commentator had more in depth insight into the google / Moot issue.

Google seems to make a ton of money in advertising, etc. But it can’t seem to create a social media network that anybody want to use.

I'm not exactly sure that a commenter has the ability to judge someone's experience and potential job performance. It also sound a little bitter and not support with any facts to support the claim.

I don't know Chris Moot and know a little bit about 4chan. I'm not a big fan of google either.

It seems like Google execs wanted to hire what they thought was the hot new star. You see this happen a lot in Hollywood. If you can't produce new ideas from within your organization, it smart to out source that talent.

Those execs that probably dropped a lot of money Moot are probably out of a job as well.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by jandrese » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:44 PM UTC

leetcrew wrote: post #50

JeremyBanks wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without censorship... so you want a place with nazis? 'cause that's what happens.

assuming this is in good faith, please take a look at this list of banned subreddits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversial_Reddit_communiti... though the world is probably better off without a lot of those, they are not all literal nazi subs.

It won't be 100% Nazis. You'll also have the spammers, pedos, and assorted wingnuts.

Trolls can always take over unmoderated forums because while they can drive the reasonable users out by reducing the signal to noise ratio down to a useless level, the reasonable users have no power drive them out. It's a completely imbalanced power dynamic. All forums need some sort of moderation or they will always collapse once they grow beyond a fairly modest threshold.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by newacct583 » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:45 PM UTC

beaconstudios wrote: post #23

_lffv wrote: post #18

> Poole's 4chan is an anonymous, ephemeral imageboard that is often given the title "cesspool of the Internet." The site is broken up into boards of various topics, and some of the more lawless boards are home to all of the worst characters on the Internet, like school shooters, child pornographers, and racists. It's also the birthplace of a lot of Internet culture, like Rickrolling, lolcats, and, more recently, Pepe…

you'd think this would be common knowledge given 4chan is literally an open website, but I always hear these mythologised recountings of it like it's some kind of mysterious inaccessible cult. It's just reddit for people who hate reddit.

> It's just reddit for people who hate reddit.

That's true on a technical level only. But culture matters.

Attitudes like yours were why 4chan was such a surprise to the rest of us. The culture that we all thought was just "ironic" and "edgy" with its casual racism turned out to be... kinda actually racist when right wingers decided to weaponize xenophobia and bigotry. The groupthink of a bunch of almost-exclusively-male incels turned out to be hiding genuine misogyny once they had an enemy to point themselves at in gamergate.

Culture matters. Being an "open website" just describes how it happens, not why.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by _etyf » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:46 PM UTC

_lffv wrote: post #18

> Poole's 4chan is an anonymous, ephemeral imageboard that is often given the title "cesspool of the Internet." The site is broken up into boards of various topics, and some of the more lawless boards are home to all of the worst characters on the Internet, like school shooters, child pornographers, and racists. It's also the birthplace of a lot of Internet culture, like Rickrolling, lolcats, and, more recently, Pepe…

It's worth noting that the Pepe meme has continued to evolve, and is no longer associated solely or primarily with 4chan. The streamer community in particular has adopted, rehabiliated, and popularized Pepe as a mascot and chat emote. For example, here's Pepe and the "poggers" meme in a recent stream from Pokimane, a streamer with over 7 million followers who made Forbes' 2021 30 under 30 list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETBUJkVMnpc&t=70s

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by Ataraxy » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

_etyf wrote: post #65

_lffv wrote: post #18

> Poole's 4chan is an anonymous, ephemeral imageboard that is often given the title "cesspool of the Internet." The site is broken up into boards of various topics, and some of the more lawless boards are home to all of the worst characters on the Internet, like school shooters, child pornographers, and racists. It's also the birthplace of a lot of Internet culture, like Rickrolling, lolcats, and, more recently, Pepe…

It's worth noting that the Pepe meme has continued to evolve, and is no longer associated solely or primarily with 4chan. The streamer community in particular has adopted, rehabiliated, and popularized Pepe as a mascot and chat emote. For example, here's Pepe and the "poggers" meme in a recent stream from Pokimane, a streamer with over 7 million followers who made Forbes' 2021 30 under 30 list: https://www.youtube.co…

It was a big thing on Twitch long before any of the negative associations were made with it via media.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by mrkstu » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:48 PM UTC

JeremyBanks wrote: post #40

Rompect wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was a mainstream site which has 4chan anonymity and fast pace + reddit thread format. Both become hardly usable with either elitism, censorship and people who think upvotes matter or an absolute cancer to follow conversations in threads.

Without censorship... so you want a place with nazis? 'cause that's what happens.

Without censorship... so you want communist pinkos? Cause that's how you get communist pinkos.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by coliveira » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

_lffv wrote: post #18

> Poole's 4chan is an anonymous, ephemeral imageboard that is often given the title "cesspool of the Internet." The site is broken up into boards of various topics, and some of the more lawless boards are home to all of the worst characters on the Internet, like school shooters, child pornographers, and racists. It's also the birthplace of a lot of Internet culture, like Rickrolling, lolcats, and, more recently, Pepe…

Why do you think this is not relevant? Everything that came out of 4chan is not a surprise, it was accepted there from the very beginning. It just took proportions that nobody would expect.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by moate » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

moksly wrote: post #41

It’s interesting to see how Moot gets the blame for the all the things that happened after he sold off 4chan. Especially when you consider how anonymous and the occupy movements were all the rage among woke leftists a few years back, and they originated from 4chan.

1- who the hell is "Moot"? 2- Back in the moot-run days of 4chan, it really was a completely different world. All the weird meme-culture we have now started there. /b/ was both the greatest and worst thing simultaneously. You had literal nazis and neckbeards working together to dox pedos. It was just a completely different place from what it's become all these years later.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by AllegedAlec » Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:49 PM UTC

russdpale wrote: post #17

Literal definition of failing upwards. He isn't a boy genuis, he copied code from japanese websites and then fostered one of the most toxic communities in human history. At google, he took a job from someone who was almost certainly way more qualified, both technically and morally.

Holy shit imagine this salty about a guy who admined a Czechoslovakian turnip farming forum.