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#61

Reminds me of when the president of a warring nation once won the Nobel Peace Prize.

He was given the award for outstanding achievement in “not being George W. Bush”.

One is very often compared to one's prædecessors.

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post #53

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

I think it says much more about how they see the consumers. They're probably counting on 99% of people not noticing the absurdity of it, or the irony in boasting about your industrial scale censorship when accepting your free speech award.

Yeah but even then I feel it shows they do not understand their audience. Hating on Javascript/consoles/Windows/OS X is something we nerds do. Free speech on YouTube is something I've seen discussed in friends groups that I would consider "normal people".

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#64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, but I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it, including the vast majority of the people who are supposedly "not particularly happy" with it. When people ask, "Why hasn't someone disrupted YouTube?" I think the more boring answer that keeps getting overlooked is that it still meets the expectations of enough users, and the dissatisfied constit…

Youtube has operated at best break even revenue, but mostly at a loss for years. Who has the money necessary to do that for years and years?

Microsoft could - along with Apple - but I think both of those companies are way too smart to try and enter the market now.

Youtube gets a sort of pass for the crap it's pulling since it's pretty much alone (Sorry - who's this Vimeo fellow you're talking about?) but any other major video service would be held up in comparison against Youtube, as is the way with society, the negative will shine through. If you start writing video suggestion algorithms today how long will it take you to be confident that "Pussy cat strolling across the back porch on a wet afternoon" isn't immediately followed up by WAP?

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#65
A brief story of free expression on YouTube:

At some point they implemented what they called a 'Limited state', which stripped almost every functionality, like comments, likes, embedding or sharing on videos that did not violate their ToS, but were simply disliked by YouTube. They removed it after a while, I assume because of Streisand effect, but I'm not sure.

Then they changed their ToS that they could ban you for literally no reason whatsoever. They retracted that since as well, but are still doing basically just that, it just gives them plausible deniability I guess.

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#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this reflects the fact that no one is particularly happy with Youtube. Between the bans, increasingly aggressive (and abusable) copyright strikes, and constantly shifting rules around content and monetization most Youtubers I watch express unhappiness about some aspect of Youtube on a regular basis. Many have started seeking alternative revenue streams to mitigate platform risk.

I'm sorry, but I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it, including the vast majority of the people who are supposedly "not particularly happy" with it. When people ask, "Why hasn't someone disrupted YouTube?" I think the more boring answer that keeps getting overlooked is that it still meets the expectations of enough users, and the dissatisfied constit…

> I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it

Are you familiar with cable television?

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post #35

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

"It might be a sign that Susan does not have a fully trusted team around her ..." => It might be a sign that team around her is afraid to tell her how ridiculous this is... Maybe they made good proposals in the past and where turned down and they now don't want to make good suggestions again...

It might be worse. They could actually believe they are promoting freedom of expression by silencing people. Pushed straight past delusion into faith.

Re: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki Gets 'Freedom Expression' Award Sponsored by YouTube

#69

Let this be a lesson to all: intelligence does not in any way correlate with self awareness. It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities, I would argue, maybe more so as a lot of smart people tend to be 'inwardly focused' and less concerned about their direct environment. This kind of thing happens all the time among Exec. level, but normally we'd expect it fro…

> It's likely that 'smart' people are just as likely to be unaware of their own follies or inabilities,

Just look at the recent debacle with the proposed (and now thankfully failed) football SuperLeague in Europe, you have 12 billionaire owners thinking that they could go ahead with killing the spirit of the game that is ingrained in the social fabric of the continent just like that, almost by fiat.

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#70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this reflects the fact that no one is particularly happy with Youtube. Between the bans, increasingly aggressive (and abusable) copyright strikes, and constantly shifting rules around content and monetization most Youtubers I watch express unhappiness about some aspect of Youtube on a regular basis. Many have started seeking alternative revenue streams to mitigate platform risk.

I'm sorry, but I simply can't believe that "no one is particularly happy with YouTube" while so many people still use it, including the vast majority of the people who are supposedly "not particularly happy" with it. When people ask, "Why hasn't someone disrupted YouTube?" I think the more boring answer that keeps getting overlooked is that it still meets the expectations of enough users, and the dissatisfied constit…

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