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Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by bane » Thu, Jun 23, 2011, 1:59 AM UTC

roc wrote: post #39

bane wrote: post #23

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That manufacturing also appears to carry a considerable investment (or possible payoff). One initially wonders why, when manufactured pop stars spectacularly flame out, that they are simply told to go low profile for a while then come back and act like nothing happened...until you think of them as a multi-million dollar entertainment machine their managers no doubt poured tons of money into in the form of singing les…

> "until you think of them as a multi-million dollar entertainment machine their managers no doubt poured tons of money into" I would bet the ad spends and branding costs would dwarf the money spent directly on grooming the performer.

I think you are probably correct. Though I'm honestly not sure how the economics work out there. A very great deal of the promotion events happen via television appearances on various variety shows. A label may have spent a decade (or more) investing in training up a performer before they get any public notice.

Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by bane » Thu, Jun 23, 2011, 3:13 AM UTC

goatforce5 wrote: post #57

bane wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That manufacturing also appears to carry a considerable investment (or possible payoff). One initially wonders why, when manufactured pop stars spectacularly flame out, that they are simply told to go low profile for a while then come back and act like nothing happened...until you think of them as a multi-million dollar entertainment machine their managers no doubt poured tons of money into in the form of singing les…

I definitely have a sense that the K-POP labels have virtual stables of up and coming "properties" Someone I knew in London 5 or so years ago got a Development Deal with one of the major labels. He stayed in his normal job, but was paid a retainer to not talk to any other labels for a period of time. I don't know how much it was, but the first time the money hit his account he thought he'd been overpaid and called th…

Reminds me maybe of the crazy stuff from "The Real Housewives of xyz" or Rebecca Black's (Friday) production company.

Sort of the feeder leagues that produce second and third rate stuff until something percolates up and makes it into the major leagues. I wonder how much music (and videos) is out there? I'd bet some (a small percentage no doubt) of it is pretty good.

Re: New Japanese Pop Idol Shocks Fans With News - She’s Not Real

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Post by roundsquare » Thu, Jun 23, 2011, 7:17 AM UTC

maeon3 wrote: post #15

Does this mean that High Definition Video evidence of a suspect performing a crime does not constitute very strong evidence of that suspect as guilty of the crime?

It might at some point, but not yet. This kind of thing would not be feasible enough to do except in extreme circumstances. In the future, as this gets easier to do, it might well become a problem.