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Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by nashashmi »

Justsignedup wrote: post #53
notRobot wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Google does this wrong thing so MS should be able to too!" No, that's not how this works. If it's wrong, stop Google from doing it, instead of letting others do it too.

Not disagreeing with you on it. But to stop google we'd need acts of legislature from multiple countries. At best we'll see results in 5 years. MS can't wait that long for a maybe sort of kind of. Just being practical here.

I think in monopoly playbook 2.0, it’s not a monopoly if it’s free. And it’s not a monopoly if your public relations are terrific.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by tester756 »

klausjensen wrote: post #28
tester756 wrote: post #18

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I have Windows 10 Pro and I don't see any ads. I don't have win app store / one drive too, removed that on the first day.

Same for me - but the problem is we have to continue jumping through hoops to hide all the garbage MS is pushing in our face in Windows. Once every x months, I have to install a larger Windows update - which has me click through a bunch of screens AGAIN, having to avoid accepting some kind of ad-pushing nonsense and tracking.

Generally there's a few lines script that disable a lot of stuff like onedrive, app stores, blabla and that's almost all I did when it comes to those things

I did it after fresh instal and didn't have to do anything for years.

I agree that sometimes there's that privacy settings screen once a few months

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

isoprophlex wrote: post #40
ChrisSD wrote: post #16

The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

Admittedly, it is awful and stupid. On the other hand, those of us who use it find the alternative to be even worse despite being free. Imagine what problems must exist with that alternative for this to be true.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by armoredkitten »

nightski wrote: post #48
isoprophlex wrote: post #40

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Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

I use it every day and tbh I haven't had to touch the settings in years. I never encounter this stuff. And reading the article it explicitly says they will only show users this feature if edge is their default browser.

No, it says "the pop-up will appear even when Microsoft Edge is the default browser... The company is not targeting people who use Google Chrome and Firefox as default browsers."

I.e., it shows up for everyone, not just people who aren't using Edge already. They aren't specifically targeting Chrome and Firefox users; they are just also included in the group.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by vbezhenar »

whalesalad wrote: post #2

Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

iOS Music app regularly asks me about Apple Music subscription.

Every corner of my Windows 10 experience is not riddled with advertisements. All I have to do is to remove few built-in partner apps after Windows install which I'm doing every few years.

You're really exaggerating it. I don't like that Microsoft tries to monetize already sold Windows. But it's not that bad. Open web browser with a typical website and you'll have every corner of the experience riddled with advertisements. That's truly embarrassing.

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Post by boomboomsubban »

i_have_an_idea wrote: post #57
boomboomsubban wrote: post #52

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>To make it clear to people not reading the comment carefully, I'm not saying MacOS is "free". You are misinterpreting the parent's argument by saying "it's pretty fair" then, as they were saying it's unfair to call MacOS "free."

No, it is fair competition because in both cases you paid money for the product, as I am clearly stating in the original comment. In one case it just also happens to be impossible to avoid being further monetized via ads and tracking. This, to me, is unacceptable for paid software, as essentially amounts to license fee + adware model.

>it is fair competition because in both cases you paid money for the product

The comment you replied to was a response to calling MacOS free, and was entirely about that topic. It's not a fair comparison to call MacOS free, that isn't justifying Microsoft's actions though.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by deburo »

Arigato wrote: post #4

Related: Microsoft Edge’s user numbers are continuing to grow while Firefox's, which at one point was the second-most popular browser behind Chrome, keeps falling: https://www.techspot.com/news/89180-mircosoft-edge-user-numb... Advertisements or recommendations in Windows 10 are definitely helping Edge

Edge is perfect for Windows or Microsoft 365 shops, and it's now the default Windows browser so obviously it helps. The suggestions are so bad, I would be suprised if it did anything other than pissing people off.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Post by Jcowell »

blowski wrote: post #36
agloeregrets wrote: post #6

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I would argue that macOS does have some advertisements , mostly for Apple services, they just tend to be cleaner and better integrated. (Also the free bit is a little fuzzy as the costs are baked into the hardware.) Microsoft is far more guilty however. Imagine how nice Windows 10 would be if Microsoft didn't own Bing, Xbox, and Office.

Exactly. Apple Music, Apple Maps, Apple iPhone, Apple Watch, Apple iPad, Apple iCloud, Apple Facetime, Apple TV, etc. I'm pretty sure I see adverts for all these things on my "advert-free" Macbook.

Really where? I’ve never heard of adverts on a MacBook for their hardware at all. Only one is for iCloud and that’s if you got their 5GB limit. Other services for when launch the app for the first time and safari for when you use a browser for the first time that’s not safari.
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