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Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by rcxdude »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

Stock ROMs have gotten better, modding had gotten less convenient. Safetynet is a huge problem there, especially for fully custom ROMs (there's workarounds which allow you to root an OEM ROM and still pass safetynet most of the time but for a custom ROM you're SOL and they often aren't even trying due to fearing google's wrath). Safetynet especially is really bad: it's not good enough to actually give a meaningful level of protection against malware or modifications, but it is good enough to basically make it not worth the while of running a custom ROM.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by argon0 »

skynet-9000 wrote: post #46
tumblewit wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DRM is a problem everywhere including linux and running ChromiumOS. There is a protected path from the stream to the display that needs to be "certified" in order to support something like 1080p. I guess for payments it's similar. Its really unnecessary and waste of resources imo. But creators probably want some kind of assurances and so we are stuck with it.

You are forgetting that DRM stopped all that piracy that bankrupted the movie industry. That's also why there were so few movies released in the last 15 months or so. It really debunks that myth that open source software could ever handle the strong encryption that's so desperately needed to protect new movies and TV shows from showing up on The Pirate Bay. I for one welcome this cogent and secure technological respo…

I don't know what you're talking about. As long as you can videotape a screen in a dark room and get audio out a 3.5mm jack, piracy will continue. The only way to prevent piracy is either:

A) only allow movies to be played in theaters

B) watermark all content, and vigorously track down freeloaders based on the watermarks

You can still find most movies/TV/books/music for free on the open web as long as you use a search engine other than google.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by birksherty »

arsome wrote: post #39
Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

A lot happened - many more recent phones, especially from big brands like Samsung heavily restrict unlocking of their bootloaders. Google implemented SafetyNet, meaning anyone who wants to use things like Google Pay, Netflix, even Pokemon Go and others now has to jump through hoops. Additionally, things like Netflix are still restricted from HD playback on unlocked devices due to hardware DRM. Android has also gotten…

I still root for fine tuned privacy (through xprivacyLua) and app backups (through titanium backup). These 2 apps provide features that are not available in any other os.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by sigmar »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

I have a unique perspective as someone that has maintained unofficial builds for LineageOS, and used both CM and LineageOS as daily drivers. I stick with stock pixel these days for various reasons, mostly security. I think many users of aftermarket firmware were trying to get rid of the awful stock apps (browsers, keyboards, mem hogs) that manufacturers and cell service providers forced onto users. As Android has matured, Google has been enforcing stricter rules for what vendors put on phones. Also newer android versions allow you to uninstall much of the preinstalled apps. That could explain part of the decrease.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by papaf »

benevol wrote: post #13
_joel wrote: post #3

Any recomendations for current spec phones that work with lineage?

Definitely Fairphone: https://www.fairphone.com/en

I installed Lineage 17.1 on a Fairphone 2 yesterday. If only I had waited one more day...

I can +1 the recommendation though. Lineage runs much better than the original OS and breathes life into what would be e-waste.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

Flex247A wrote: post #25
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hello... I own a mi pad 1 and its running miui with android 3 or 4 I think. Newpipe works but barely. Same for other stuff. Last year I got China rom I guess but that changed the ui. Can you point me where to get started? I would love to use this device as its currently just a dump tablet with limited features.

Sure! Actually MIUI has Android 4.4.2 KitKat. I repartitioned the ROM partition by following this guide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7_jrw9C9Pg And downloaded the ROM files form here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/unofficial-14-1-7-1-2-201... China ROM is really bad as it can lead to black screen with the tablet becoming unresponsive.

What is the lineageos you use based on? What android version?

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by blendergeek »

codethief wrote: post #19

I've been using LineageOS since the good ol' CyanogenMod days and I am very grateful for how much work the developers put into it day in and day out. Thanks to them, I managed to get rid of Google Apps in my day-to-day life almost[0] entirely and drastically improve privacy for me: Instead of Google Play Services I use MicroG[1] and instead of Play Store, I use Aurora Store[2] and F-Droid. For syncing files there is…

> But with a Linux phone I'd probably be struggling with window-manager-related bugs in the worst possible moments (say, an emergency call)

Can confirm. This is a very real possibility.

> and risk all my data getting stolen whenever I install a new app.

Where do you plan to get your apps from? If you stick to the repos, this isn't an issue.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by arbitrage »

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #32

Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014, and has steadily been decreasing since. [0] What happened since then? Are people more satisfied with stock ROMs and see less use for them? FWIW, my own phone is on LineageOS, and love the freedom it provides. [0] https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=2009-11-01%202...

> Google Trends is telling me that "peak modding" for android was around 2014

Netcraft confirms it.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by 2ion »

yaomtc wrote: post #43
2ion wrote: post #35

Unfortunately, even if LOS supports my device (it does), it's not a viable solution anymore for me as a primary smartphone OS (even though I really appreciate some of its features -- used it for years on previous phones) due to SafetyNet. - Google Pay will stop working. - My banks' (multiple) primary apps and pushTAN solutions will stop working. and that's two of the most important things I use my phone for nowadays.…

What benefit does this restrictive bank offer over, say, a credit union? Or another big bank without this app requirement?

There are two such methods left in Germany, chipTAN and photoTAN which (can) use seperate, external generator devices which you can buy. If you have multiple banks however, like I do, it's mixn'match. The last method left is smsTAN, which is insecure by default, and it's the first being phased out right now.

The move towards more elaborate TAN setups is due to PSD2 EU regulations; banks usually choose the way their lawyers deem watertight and product management considers acceptable in terms of cost, although especially on the lawyer side, interpretations of current law still differ. Which results in different PIN/TAN flows even between the major players at the moment.

Re: LineageOS 18.1

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Post by vorpalhex »

skynet-9000 wrote: post #46
tumblewit wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

DRM is a problem everywhere including linux and running ChromiumOS. There is a protected path from the stream to the display that needs to be "certified" in order to support something like 1080p. I guess for payments it's similar. Its really unnecessary and waste of resources imo. But creators probably want some kind of assurances and so we are stuck with it.

You are forgetting that DRM stopped all that piracy that bankrupted the movie industry. That's also why there were so few movies released in the last 15 months or so. It really debunks that myth that open source software could ever handle the strong encryption that's so desperately needed to protect new movies and TV shows from showing up on The Pirate Bay. I for one welcome this cogent and secure technological respo…

You're going to get so many responses missing your sarcasm.
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