I'm still not convinced that clubhouse is anything more than real time podcasts saturated with linkedin influencers
TBH Linkedin is probably the best fit fot it. It's the perfect mix of neediness, narcissism and irrelevence
Clubhouse clones are coming
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#62I am not even sure if Clubhouse has network effect in that stickiness of app isn't the number of people using it but the quality of the content. In this case, the audio rooms. As far as I can tell, 90% of rooms I see just aren't that good. I wouldn't go back to use an app just because Lebron James uses it if I don't get any value from it.
Yes, and for the "celeb" talks like that time Elon Musk was on, it was on YouTube 5min after. So why should I download an app and be there at that exact time (which would have been in the middle of the night for me) when I can just listen to the thing on YouTube later at my own convenience?
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#63Good. I still haven’t received an invite after 3 months, and I’m getting a bit tired of waiting. Don’t even know if it would be worth the wait, but based on the comments here I shouldn’t be holding my breath.
DM me on Twitter (Same handle as here) and I'll share an invite
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#64Brevity was what originally made Twitter popular after the first wave of blogging. I don't think the vogue for blowhards talking at length in 'rooms' is going to last long, whether within Clubhouse or any of the other me-too cloned feature additions in other social media platforms.
Podcasts though.
I ve seen a few videos on youtube recorded from clubhouse. It seems like a group recording app, but is that unique? Few people can arrange engaging conversations anyway so whether they record it in clubhouse, on zoom or in their mom's tape recorded makes zero difference.
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#65I think the drop-in audio room is here to stay. It is a format.
hn is a text room. Similar to how Twitter is a text room. Similar yet different.
https://twitter.com/__tosh/status/1377587398973005827?s=20
I'm working on Jam which is an open source implementation of the drop-in audio room format, in many ways similar to Clubhouse or Twitter Spaces but also different (and more versatile).
Show HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26131123
https://gitlab.com/jam-systems/jam
Benedict Evans' take on Slack adding audio rooms and what it means for Clubhouse:
https://twitter.com/benedictevans/status/1377363658167050241...
Some things are so fundamental that it is difficult to say whether they were "invented" or "original". In some cases _discovered_ seems more fitting.
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#66This seems like an ok time to point to Shaan's twitter thread on why he believes clubhouse will fail [1]. Nothing is guaranteed of course, but it is an entertaining read. It's designed to be a bit over the top, silicon valley esque story style. But the person who wrote it, is writing from their experience of actually launching, and burning out in an attempt to build a similar company which makes the thread that much…
I think Clubhouse is making a big mistake if they don't sell out to a bigger player. It's like the Steve Jobs quote to Dropbox about how what they have is a feature, not a product. What Clubhouse offers should be built into a broader social network since it clearly can't survive on independently for the reasons Shaan mentions.
Discord is already launching "Stages" which aims to replicate Clubhouse's main selling point. And I'm sure Twitter, Facebook, and Microsoft are gunning for them too. I have trouble seeing how they survive.
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#67Technically speaking it's difficult to see if the label 'clone' is justified given that the concept of audio only chat rooms isn't exactly new. The biggest clubhouse 'innovation' might have been to make it an invite only app and thus create a cascade of FOMO in the style of Gibson's 'antimarketing' in Zero History where someone creates the world's most sought after jeans by simply not selling it anywhere.
It isn't sticky. Sample size of one: I logged into to Clubhouse for a week, and haven't been back since.
Yep, lots of the rooms I see are like "So U can give ORAL w/o a condom, but have sex with one" (actual room, actual spelling) which had almost 1k people in it..
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#68My impression is that Clubhouse makes people feel like they're part of a special privileged group by artifically and arbitrarily restricting access to a small number of dedicated (if not outright sycophantic) listeners. It's ultimately a system which benefits highly privileged people who have a lot of free time and flexibility while excluding people with more restrictive schedules. Digital media can be consumed at an…
Let me play devil’s advocate here: maybe Clubhouse mirrors real life in that if your friends are all getting together for happy hour at 4:30pm ok a Friday because they work jobs that let them do that or don’t work at all while you took away at your startup, you can’t make this real time event. I have learned over the past several years that making it to a real time event that isn’t recorded does make it significantly more special and memorable. Not every moment is worth having but the impact of it only happening once makes it more memorable.
Having said that, I’m not a user of Clubhouse and have no intention of using it. Discord and Zoom have been plenty good for this kind of communication without any influencers or marketers being involved.
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#69I am not even sure if Clubhouse has network effect in that stickiness of app isn't the number of people using it but the quality of the content. In this case, the audio rooms. As far as I can tell, 90% of rooms I see just aren't that good. I wouldn't go back to use an app just because Lebron James uses it if I don't get any value from it.
Yes, and for the "celeb" talks like that time Elon Musk was on, it was on YouTube 5min after. So why should I download an app and be there at that exact time (which would have been in the middle of the night for me) when I can just listen to the thing on YouTube later at my own convenience?
This. If I can only listen in all the interesting rooms, why does it matter that I listen "live". If there were features that somehow allowed for controlled interaction, there would be more of an appeal.
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#70This seems like an ok time to point to Shaan's twitter thread on why he believes clubhouse will fail [1]. Nothing is guaranteed of course, but it is an entertaining read. It's designed to be a bit over the top, silicon valley esque story style. But the person who wrote it, is writing from their experience of actually launching, and burning out in an attempt to build a similar company which makes the thread that much…
I think Clubhouse is making a big mistake if they don't sell out to a bigger player. It's like the Steve Jobs quote to Dropbox about how what they have is a feature, not a product. What Clubhouse offers should be built into a broader social network since it clearly can't survive on independently for the reasons Shaan mentions. Discord is already launching "Stages" which aims to replicate Clubhouse's main selling poin…
Except Dropbox succeeded as a separate company by most reasonable metrics.
The Jobs offer was $1B IIRC; they’ve got a $12B market cap and some reasonable ROI far beyond the acquisition offer by now (remember even the IPO investors - non-retail - bought in at $21).
Whether the total ROI exceeds the growth / rate of return in AAPL stock during that time, well, maybe not? But it would have been a cash transaction...