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EU: "Making hacking tools should be illegal"

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Re: EU: "Making hacking tools should be illegal"

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If hacking tools are outlawed, then only outlaws will have hacking tools. Meaning if you're a software developer or system admin in the EU, you better be on standby 24/7 to combat 0-day exploits.

Lockpicking tools are illegal and yet locksmiths and companies that make locks are allowed to have them. That seems pretty directly analagous; I see no particular reason why we couldn't have licensed and bonded digital security experts/companies.

Re: EU: "Making hacking tools should be illegal"

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post #61
post #16

If hacking tools are outlawed, then only outlaws will have hacking tools. Meaning if you're a software developer or system admin in the EU, you better be on standby 24/7 to combat 0-day exploits.

Lockpicking tools are illegal and yet locksmiths and companies that make locks are allowed to have them. That seems pretty directly analagous; I see no particular reason why we couldn't have licensed and bonded digital security experts/companies.

That's all fine and good if you only take companies and security consultants into account, but I'm not sure it's 100% analogous. What about random hypothetical geeky teenager who wants to contribute security patches to an open source project? I don't think there's a lockpick equivalent to that.

Re: EU: "Making hacking tools should be illegal"

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post #61
post #16

If hacking tools are outlawed, then only outlaws will have hacking tools. Meaning if you're a software developer or system admin in the EU, you better be on standby 24/7 to combat 0-day exploits.

Lockpicking tools are illegal and yet locksmiths and companies that make locks are allowed to have them. That seems pretty directly analagous; I see no particular reason why we couldn't have licensed and bonded digital security experts/companies.

Bit of a nitpick (and I'm not sure where you live) but lock picks are generally legal in the US. In some areas however they become illegal if they can prove malicious intent.

Re: EU: "Making hacking tools should be illegal"

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Blasphemy will be illegal world-wide, soon.

God says, "folk shares rigidly IMHO lies interpret temptations currents defile below duller forgot gardens bathe"

Some people mistake God for a network.

Bible says,"10 "Everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the holy Spirit will not be forgiven. 11 When they take you before synagogues and before rulers and authorities, do not worry about how or what your defense will be or about what you are to say. 12 For the holy Spirit will teach you at that moment what you should say."

http://www.usccb.org/nab/bible/1corinthians/1corinthians14.h...

Atheist, how do you account for that passage? Explain th psychological motivation. They just invented a crazy notion -- "Holy Spirit"? Why would the build deeper and deeper fictions. It's obvious atheists are fools, now that I'm not an atheist -- religion comes from evidence, not philosophy. You atheists will kick yourselves and say how could I have been so foolish to discount hundreds of people's testemony in the Bible.

God says, "feels plead thoughts no_more I'm_off_today its ."

Re: EU: "Making hacking tools should be illegal"

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post #62
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lockpicking tools are illegal and yet locksmiths and companies that make locks are allowed to have them. That seems pretty directly analagous; I see no particular reason why we couldn't have licensed and bonded digital security experts/companies.

That's all fine and good if you only take companies and security consultants into account, but I'm not sure it's 100% analogous. What about random hypothetical geeky teenager who wants to contribute security patches to an open source project? I don't think there's a lockpick equivalent to that.

There is an analogy: Locksporting. Groups like Toool and individuals across the world pick and design locks as a hobby, and have shown flaws in high-security designs like Medeco that were later corrected.
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