I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...
Same here. And I still did not find the perfect note taking app. I have so few requirements. WYSIWYG editing, easy image insertion, export function with open standard format, mobile app, some security.
Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
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Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#62https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…
It’s quite heavy and slow.
Would love to hear a better definition of "heavy". :)
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
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It’s quite heavy and slow.
Hey, curious. What exactly do you use from Open Project? Would love to hear a better definition of "heavy". :)
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#64https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…
I mainly used this list https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#tas...
I did focus on "Task management/To-do lists", while OpenProject is listed under the "Project Management" section. This is likely why I missed it as I've been looking for something clean and simple (not JIRA) that is more akin to the earlier versions of Trello (rather than the feature bloated whale it has now become).
Looking at it now and to be honest it doesn't quite look like what I'm looking for when looking for a Trello alternative, I just want cards on a board I can move around (with a bit of metadata)
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#65This is awesome. This with good integration with Mattermost (or discord) would serve the needs for a lot of teams. Notion could as well but they are a slow moving beast with different priorities.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
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> how hard can it be to render some text? It really depends. If the only thing you care about rendering is US ASCII with a monospace bitmapped font, that's not too hard. However, a general purpose text renderer will have to handle things like directionality (left to right versus right to left text orientation), wide/half text rendering (for CJK characters), combining characters (for some European, South East Asian la…
All of this can be done quite efficiently on a native widget. The problem with Notion is that it uses Electron.
It's a fun meme to blame Electron for everything but the problems with Notion are obviously with its state and data management. Booting/rendering performance is not the bottleneck here, and having used lightning fast Electron apps, I'm sure it never will be.
Put differently: what measurements do you have of the performance issues of Notion and is Electron performance the root problem of them?
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
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All of this can be done quite efficiently on a native widget. The problem with Notion is that it uses Electron.
Which makes rendering text extremely simple. It's a fun meme to blame Electron for everything but the problems with Notion are obviously with its state and data management. Booting/rendering performance is not the bottleneck here, and having used lightning fast Electron apps, I'm sure it never will be. Put differently: what measurements do you have of the performance issues of Notion and is Electron performance the r…
Compare it with the few MBs needed by an equivalent native app with exactly same functionality.
By any standard and by any metric, Electron is bloated. Some applications (like VSCode) can disguise it quite well and give a an acceptable user experience.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#68I love Notion but the speed, or rather lack of, is killing me daily. Last Friday I was taking some notes, and suddenly the page refreshed and everything was gone. Went on twitter to see, I wasn't alone .. i feel like hosting my own notion clone is the way to go forward to use Notion...
Same here. And I still did not find the perfect note taking app. I have so few requirements. WYSIWYG editing, easy image insertion, export function with open standard format, mobile app, some security.
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
#69https://www.openproject.org/ I am always surprised when people don't mention Open Project. Cos isn't this fragmentation? Open Project... - Have been there for a long time. - Good motivated team AFAIK, - Have forum software. - Project board - And even version control! Everything self hosted or enterprise/cloud for serious stuff or people who want to support them. Or is there some other reason why openproject is not kn…
I tried a bunch of selfhosted alternatives to Trello a few months back and never registered OpenProject as an option. I mainly used this list https://github.com/awesome-selfhosted/awesome-selfhosted#tas... I did focus on "Task management/To-do lists", while OpenProject is listed under the "Project Management" section. This is likely why I missed it as I've been looking for something clean and simple (not JIRA) that i…
If I may, what did you finally settle on?
Re: Focalboard – a self-hosted alternative to Trello, Notion, and Asana
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Hey, curious. What exactly do you use from Open Project? Would love to hear a better definition of "heavy". :)
I tried it as a self hosted alternative to Trello for Kanban. It’s got a ton of features compared to Trello and updating things and moving cards is quite slow.