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Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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And what impact have they had beyond a bunch of anodyne "we support black lives" statements? It's not even clear to me that the rioters were particularly well organized or politically engaged so I'm not sure that social media targeting would make much difference (with I guess the possible exception of censoring any police violence videos).

Thousands of houses and businesses burned down, families moving out of cities, huge records set for guns sold and for first time gun buyers, and you pretend nothing happened last year.

Thousands?

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You'll note that the user you're replying to mentioned news organizations, not people with fedal power. Can you name the people at these large tech companies you trust to determine what constitutes a hoax and what doesn't? How will you hold them to account should they get it wrong?

No, I don't, really. But they already do it, often in ways I dislike, and I can't see why to pretend the genie is back in the bottle and acting like I'm sad they're exercising that power against what I consider obviously harmful disinformation.

If you forgo justice in the name of the greater good don't be mad when you get neither. By your own admission, it's a precarious moral tightrope you're walking here.

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This used to be more or less exactly my attitude but then my mom got really into QAnon nonsense and the whole Capitol raid thing unfolded and I've become a lot more sympathetic to just banning people raving about Chinese Manchurian candidates from social media. Honestly, even when alternative news sources are easily accessible nobody reads them.

My mom got sucked into the RussiaGate hoax, so we should look into shutting down CNN and other propaganda outlets

I don't think those are the same things.

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Thousands of houses and businesses burned down, families moving out of cities, huge records set for guns sold and for first time gun buyers, and you pretend nothing happened last year.

It's neither the first time we had race riots nor, most likely, the last. What action do you think is needed?

These riots were lead by avowed Marxists. They received millions in donations from the largest companies in the world. These same companies lined up to shut down any criticism of these riots. At the same time, countervailing forced are censored and demonized (maybe rightfully, but wildly unequally) and swiftly wiped off the internet by coordinated efforts.

I respect the fact that people can think these are good things, but pretending it's business as usual is just laughable.

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The Democrats beat back a left-wing challenge from their base quite handily and Joe Biden was proud to say so. When I consider this and the generally contemptuous attitude of Dems toward their more progressive supporters, I find the notion of a Red Guard reshaping America in their image something like a fever dream and not a serious analysis. To my mind the Capitol raid is playing a much larger role in their minds. T…

The core base of the Democratic party; Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, and their ilk; have been in power in their jerrymandered districts for decades, and in line with accusing others what what they themselves are doing, they accused the Republicans for over a year with planning to usurp power for the mortal sin of making a fuss over Mail In Balloting, something most western countries have heavily restricted or outright…

Getting a massive army to go for years of guerilla war is quite a different proposition from getting a small, committed group of people to storm a building and start taking hostages, especially if there is a rump that supports them.

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The Democrats beat back a left-wing challenge from their base quite handily and Joe Biden was proud to say so. When I consider this and the generally contemptuous attitude of Dems toward their more progressive supporters, I find the notion of a Red Guard reshaping America in their image something like a fever dream and not a serious analysis. To my mind the Capitol raid is playing a much larger role in their minds. T…

The core base of the Democratic party; Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, and their ilk; have been in power in their jerrymandered districts for decades, and in line with accusing others what what they themselves are doing, they accused the Republicans for over a year with planning to usurp power for the mortal sin of making a fuss over Mail In Balloting, something most western countries have heavily restricted or outright…

> Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, and their ilk; have been in power in their jerrymandered districts for decades,

Er, Senate “districts” are States, it is impossible for them to be gerrymandered. So clearly that's impossible for 2 out of 3.

And while Pelosi is in the House, no one is going to point to CA-12 as much of an example of gerrymandering.

https://pelosi.house.gov/about/our-district

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post #64

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It's neither the first time we had race riots nor, most likely, the last. What action do you think is needed?

These riots were lead by avowed Marxists. They received millions in donations from the largest companies in the world. These same companies lined up to shut down any criticism of these riots. At the same time, countervailing forced are censored and demonized (maybe rightfully, but wildly unequally) and swiftly wiped off the internet by coordinated efforts. I respect the fact that people can think these are good thing…

Is that so? Why would the world's largest companies support the abolition of private property?

Re: Across the Internet, a Game of Whac-a-Mole Is Underway to Root Out Extremism

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Extremism is relative. The opinions of an average American in 2008 would be labelled "far-right" today (see: opposition to gay marriage, transgenderism, support for colorblindness, I could go on). Sooner or later, people will see that it's a fool's errand keeping up with this runaway train of an overton window.

Sensationalism generates extremist beliefs as a consequence of its operation.

The mainstream media\media monopoly has two deeply engrained habits; one, the belief in distributing free news, two, in sensationalizing every story to maximize ad revenue.

Technology reduces cost, ergo, when costs reductions meet these two habitations, the net result is training the audience to accept sensationalisation itself as a brand and if they do so, you tend to polarize an audience in unpredictable ways as a consequence of operating your media empire.

Think about it this way. The reason the MSM puts out news is to sell advertising, and to the advertisers, we are products the MSM is selling to them. What do you do with products once you are done with them? You throw them in the garbage. Once we're used up we become trashed.

It's the belief that sensationalism itself is trustworthy that creates this trashing, and I would encourage anyone to learn to detect sensationalism as the psychological baseline for stimulation has risen to such an extreme these days.

In this instance, the moment we refer to any kind of warfare operation as "whack a mole" is when you begin rolling your eyes as the author is not treating people with respect.

Good, accurate information is expensive. If you need proof of that, talk to a historian.

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Support for colour-blindness is far-right? Who knew MLK was such a far right extremist eh?

Anti-racism, which is explicitly non-color-blind, is now accepted ideology among the center right in the US. See for instance Mitt Romney marching in the "Black Lives Matter" protest: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/07/politics/mitt-romney-black-li...

Ironically, anti-racism is sounding awfully like racism to me. But maybe that's just my colour-blind self...

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post #64

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These riots were lead by avowed Marxists. They received millions in donations from the largest companies in the world. These same companies lined up to shut down any criticism of these riots. At the same time, countervailing forced are censored and demonized (maybe rightfully, but wildly unequally) and swiftly wiped off the internet by coordinated efforts. I respect the fact that people can think these are good thing…

Is that so? Why would the world's largest companies support the abolition of private property?

I'm not a member of those companies' boards, so I could not say. I suspect because they're politically aligned with the "soundbite" message presented by the leadership of the riots, and that their marketing teams calculated it is beneficial for PR purposes. Useful Innocents.
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