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Am I the only one who can't make FairMail deliver mail faster than 15-20 minutes? The notification is on, the battery optimization for the app is off, still nothing. K9 actually receives the message earlier, despite not having a persistent notification.
I was wondering it seems like when you get a mail app, Android ends up storing that mail address as an account in the account section of the parameters. Is there a way to avoid this ?
Just checked on mine and no FairEmail email account is listed in the accounts list in Android - it's all handled in-app.
I have been using this email app for months, with 4 different email providers. It works like a charm, it's snappy, and privacy-oriented (preview links before opening them, block pixel tracking, and lot of other clever features.) Oh and the developer is very active (several versions a week), very kind and answers very quickly. One of the best bargains. (I bought the full version)
> preview links before opening them I noticed this feature in the default macOS mail App too but I'm not quite sure I understand correctly. If you click on the little arrow next to a link, it opens the website in a little window -- from a privacy/security POV, is that really helpful? Wouldn't the sender know you read the E-Mail if my computer sends a request to their server using that URL, no matter if it's for a pre…
It also warns you prominently if the link's text differs from the target address, and allows you to pick which you actually want to visit (good for newsletters that mangle links for click tracking, but which show the raw link in the text).
Tapping a link will pop this box up, without the site being alerted, giving you the chance to decide whether you want to actually visit it or not.
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Doesn't k9 already supports IDLE? I kinda remember researching about this years ago, unfortunately, IDLE on it's own is no equivalent to native push notifications that use google services. Either way, it was just a hobby research and I might be wrong.
Last time I looked into this, K9 didn't work in background continuously (since Android requires displaying a notification for that, and K9 never implemented it). And nothing seems to be happening in this regard. However, I wasn't able to make FairMail to deliver without a considerable delay either—despite it displaying a notification and being excluded from ‘battery optimization’. But apparently it's just me.
On "pure" Android (thinking Pixel, and the relatively pure Motorola devices, etc.) there's no delays at all - it's really impressive. I'll get the notification on my phone consistently before on my PC.
it's interesting how secure email has been solved decades ago (how to do it) but making it accessible has been an ongoing struggle. :(
Anyone ran across a more tangible solution for the common man?
Am I a weirdo for using POP mail on an Android? I don't trust any third party with storing my email. Is there a reason why I should move to IMAP? I mean I know the technical reasons. But it says on the FairEmail page: "FairEmail might be for you if you value your privacy." and also says "works with virtually all email providers, including Gmail, Outlook and Yahoo!" For me, privacy is more than what's on the client -…
You will never escape having some of your email stored on Gmail servers. Most people you email are using a gmail address, whether direct or via forwarding.
End-to-end encryption is your only true ally. In this regard, email is hopeless. I personally feel that all these privacy mechanisms on top of email are a) hopelessly pointless and b) give people false comfort. They do more harm than good. It would be better if people saw email as a plaintext, insecure protocol and treated it that way at all times. Just imagine whatever you write in an email is the same as a message you send out to the world on Twitter. Doing it this way ensures you never send a message you will regret and will guarantee your protection rather than the security theater of privacy mechanisms layered on top of a fundamentally broken protocol.
Is anyone else getting this error on F-Droid? Download failed! The requested file was not found. https://f-droid.org/repo/eu.faircode.email_1518.apk How can I download this app? I use K-9 Mail at the moment, but I'd like to try this to see if it's any better.
You can also always download this directly from the browser.
it looks like a cool project though what I'd love to see is some solution that makes PGP/Secure Email more accessible to the common person. I know hushmail, tutanota, and protonmail are all around, but still only works if everyone is on the same service. it's interesting how secure email has been solved decades ago (how to do it) but making it accessible has been an ongoing struggle. :( Anyone ran across a more tangi…
20 years ago when there was no better solution, PGP was great. But I think it's probably had its time in the spotlight and now the world has moved on, when it comes to using it to secure email.
I think the solution is that if you want to communicate in a secure manner, don't use email.
I have been using this email app for months, with 4 different email providers. It works like a charm, it's snappy, and privacy-oriented (preview links before opening them, block pixel tracking, and lot of other clever features.) Oh and the developer is very active (several versions a week), very kind and answers very quickly. One of the best bargains. (I bought the full version)
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Doesn't k9 already supports IDLE? I kinda remember researching about this years ago, unfortunately, IDLE on it's own is no equivalent to native push notifications that use google services. Either way, it was just a hobby research and I might be wrong.
Last time I looked into this, K9 didn't work in background continuously (since Android requires displaying a notification for that, and K9 never implemented it). And nothing seems to be happening in this regard. However, I wasn't able to make FairMail to deliver without a considerable delay either—despite it displaying a notification and being excluded from ‘battery optimization’. But apparently it's just me.
It's easy to change an app's background ability in Android. By default apps are forced into the background, but if you change that your k9 email will notify you all day long (it does support IDLE)