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Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Re: Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Post by giantg2 »

umvi wrote: post #27
willis936 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

UT has more overbearing regulations than any other state. They are also far and away the most conservative state. Not all conservatives in the US are aligned with them, it’s just that the cult majority have regulatory capture.

> UT has more overbearing regulations than any other state Like what? Are you referring to alcohol laws? Because last I checked you could still by beer at the grocery store in Utah, but you cannot do that in Montgomery County, Maryland (most populous county of one of the bluest states).

Not necessarily taking one side ot the other, but they also have very restrictive fireworks laws.

Also, I don't know about Montgomery Co, but PG Co (and others) has liquor beer etc in all sorts of small shops.

Re: Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Post by MBlume »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #47

When I think of my 5 year old nephew and all the threats our world faces, it all seems small compared to the threat he poses to himself. And of those threats smartphone porn-addiction seems the worst. It's like giving every child a pot vape pen or alcohol flask and then wishing them "good luck". Seriously how do parents manage this and is there any young reader that cares to comment on how it affected them? If my hig…

> When I think of my 5 year old nephew and all the threats our world faces, it all seems small compared to the threat he poses to himself.

Really? When I think of my 4 year old daughter I'm a lot more worried she'll get hit by a car crossing the street.

Re: Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Post by junipertea »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #47

When I think of my 5 year old nephew and all the threats our world faces, it all seems small compared to the threat he poses to himself. And of those threats smartphone porn-addiction seems the worst. It's like giving every child a pot vape pen or alcohol flask and then wishing them "good luck". Seriously how do parents manage this and is there any young reader that cares to comment on how it affected them? If my hig…

Most of us millennials grew up around near unlimited amount of free online pornography and we turned out pretty functional. It might help a lot to have functioning sex education from parents instead of pretending it does not exist.

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Post by imwillofficial »

ceejayoz wrote: post #50
imwillofficial wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren’t when tax dollars go into the pockets of BigTech, of which every single one of them has massive government contracts. Every one.

That's not how the First Amendment works. At all.

Your tired argument falls flat. Yes, the first admenement applies to government, but when government and private companies are so unified in task and purpose, as well as value exchange, the distinction between the two is meaningless. So no “muh private companies” holds zero water. At all.

Re: Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Post by drusepth »

Utah is a Mormon state: statewide, Mormons account for nearly 62% of Utah's 3.1 million residents [1] and 91 of the 104 state legislators are Mormon [2].

The LDS teachings are against pornography (comparing it to the plague in the very first line of [3]), and a survey of 192 male Mormon college students aged 18-27 showed 100% of them considered viewing pornography "unacceptable". [4]

That Utah would pass anti-pornography bills isn't surprising, IMO.

[1] https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-utah-salt-lak...

[2] https://apnews.com/article/286983987f484cb182fba9334c52a617

[3] https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/prophets-and-apostles/un...

[4] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232507019_I_Believe...

Re: Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Post by lallysingh »

gkfasdfasdf wrote: post #23

I understand the HN crowd may take issue with this, but the ease at which a child can stumble onto pornography or adult content is really scary. Even with google safe search, etc enabled. Growing up watching television in the US, you couldn't see topless women on public broadcast TV, let alone hardcore pornography.

I have filters for my kids at home. They block a lot more than smut. I'm the parent, and the government has no business here. There's no good definition for what this is, and there are a lot of things I'd consider not smut that I can imagine a virtue-signalling Utah politician calling smut. Like regular beaches. I remember talking heads complaining about some types of bikinis when I was young.

More importantly, this is the government controlling what we can see. If something's blocked that's not porn, say about Utah politicians, how will Utah citizens know? It's honestly unlikely that people in other states will make a fuss.

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Post by ReactiveJelly »

gkfasdfasdf wrote: post #23

I understand the HN crowd may take issue with this, but the ease at which a child can stumble onto pornography or adult content is really scary. Even with google safe search, etc enabled. Growing up watching television in the US, you couldn't see topless women on public broadcast TV, let alone hardcore pornography.

Sure, children exist.

How will it affect adults? Are they trying to make a list of registered porn watchers?

Why isn't it left to parents to teach their kids about using porn safely?

I don't like this censorship. It's very 1984-ish. This is where it crosses the line from "Twitter, a private company, won't let terrorists plan acts of terror on their private website" to "The government wants you to be embarrassed for liking sex."

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Post by colordrops »

throwaway803453 wrote: post #47

When I think of my 5 year old nephew and all the threats our world faces, it all seems small compared to the threat he poses to himself. And of those threats smartphone porn-addiction seems the worst. It's like giving every child a pot vape pen or alcohol flask and then wishing them "good luck". Seriously how do parents manage this and is there any young reader that cares to comment on how it affected them? If my hig…

I don't know, i got tons of illicit imagery on my WWIV BBS from other sysops that didn't know I was a young adolescent back in the day. And my usage of said online media has only gone up throughout the decades and I somehow came out fine. Anecdote, I know.

Re: Utah bill would require activated porn filter software on new phones, tablets

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Post by jorblumesea »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #17
rootusrootus wrote: post #9

I thought Utah was a GOP state? What happened to 'small government'? This seems like shoving gov't down your throat.

GOP policies have never been “small government” (in my life). They just like to say it.

Everyone wants whatever type of government to push the issues they care about. Dems want small government when it comes to marijuana legalization, but also the Federal government should set education curriculum across the entire country or enforce country wide mask mandates. GOP wants states to be able to ban abortions and teach creationism, but chafes at the idea that states could legalize marijuana unilaterally.

It's politics, everyone is a hypocrite.

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