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Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

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Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

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This is really feudalism replayed. If you know important people at the emperor's court, you have a chance to get yor problem solved.

It's not "feudalism", it's human social relations and power dynamics.

Unregulated power dynamics are basically feudalism. (Well, feudalism put in some regulations...)

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

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> But there are plenty of Google engineers and good helpful people on Hacker news. > (from a screenshot) I work at Google [...] so I escalated your issue [...] > I believe the HN thread getting on the homepage tremendously helped me and somebody from Google saw it and expedited the review after all So, once more an issue with FAANG could only be fixed because somebody knew somebody else and went out of his way to get…

This is really feudalism replayed. If you know important people at the emperor's court, you have a chance to get yor problem solved.

It’s really not, least of all because feudalism didn’t have emperors.

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

#63

> But there are plenty of Google engineers and good helpful people on Hacker news. > (from a screenshot) I work at Google [...] so I escalated your issue [...] > I believe the HN thread getting on the homepage tremendously helped me and somebody from Google saw it and expedited the review after all So, once more an issue with FAANG could only be fixed because somebody knew somebody else and went out of his way to get…

This gentleman had a similar issue where his site was taken down without explanation at youtube. I intervened certain that we just needed to light some fires and get a human to look at it. He never got back into his account and to my knowledge never got a reply that was not a canned response. https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mohammedadam24_cybersecurity-...

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

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Can someone explain to my why Google isn't being drowned in a torrent of lawsuits? We are getting stories like this on a weekly basis now. Google is clearly causing measurable harm to your company and you. And apparently to thousands before you. Considering how much money patent trolls manage to extract from Big Tech with considerably weaker cases, how is it that everybody is treating Google like a fragile grandmothe…

What is the tort? Mcdonald's burned off a woman's labia after burning the flesh of several people with coffee tens of degrees hotter than is safe, and then refused to simply pay her medical bills, prompting a lawsuit. Has Google burned your labia?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference

They interfered with the contract OP has with their customers.

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

#65

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Democratic societies try to limit this problem by establishing some semireliable channels to remedy injustice, though.

I don't think anyone considers this to be in the realm of injustice.

Anyone? That is a strong word.

At least I would consider losing an important asset based on a whim of an algorithm without a possibility of appeal to humans quite a gross injustice, though within the limits of the law as it stands today.

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

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> But there are plenty of Google engineers and good helpful people on Hacker news. > (from a screenshot) I work at Google [...] so I escalated your issue [...] > I believe the HN thread getting on the homepage tremendously helped me and somebody from Google saw it and expedited the review after all So, once more an issue with FAANG could only be fixed because somebody knew somebody else and went out of his way to get…

This is the norm with FAANG and it really annoys me. How many of these cases never saw the light of day because of that? Even with HN it's a complete lottery what contents reaches the front page, so getting issues like these resolved is a matter of extreme luck for a common person.

Probably naive idea: Would it be possible to set up an insurance fund for this? As in, the money would be used to sue FAANG for damages in cases when businesses are lost due to them being flagged/blacklisted by FAANG incorrectly.

If enough companies contribute to this, it might put some pressure on FAANG to take things seriously.

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

#67
Thanks for the writeup - I've learned some things. I have a site that allows user image uploads as well. I take each "image" and resize and compress it. If it's not an image after that, it get's rejected. Hopefully this is rejecting any malware.

I have gotten warnings from google multiple times about hosting NSFW images (that is not the purpose of the site) that have ads on the page. This isn't google disliking NSFW content - it's google not liking NSFW content and ads together. Due to multiple warnings, and worried about bans, I now actually manually review each image. This is actually easier than it sounds. I wrote myself a batch script and review in chunks before I allow google to view any images.

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

#68

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This is really feudalism replayed. If you know important people at the emperor's court, you have a chance to get yor problem solved.

It’s really not, least of all because feudalism didn’t have emperors.

What? Even if we ignore China or Japan, the existence of the Holy Roman Empire overlapped that of feudalism in Europe.

Re: Thanks HN: Lessons learned after Google nearly killed my site

#70

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This is really feudalism replayed. If you know important people at the emperor's court, you have a chance to get yor problem solved.

It’s really not, least of all because feudalism didn’t have emperors.

The Holy Roman Empire was pretty much prototypical for feudalism and definitely had emperors
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