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Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

#61

This seems nice in theory but reaches the wrong audience. Since a couple months ago DDG decided to block TOR Browser users, so I would guess that most people that were concerned about their privacy already moved on to the competition. Though it's nice to see better support for 2G slow networks, even when it's not for the sake of privacy as they claim.

Working fine for me presently over Tor.

There's also an onion site you can access directly: https://3g2upl4pq6kufc4m.onion/

Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

#62

This seems nice in theory but reaches the wrong audience. Since a couple months ago DDG decided to block TOR Browser users, so I would guess that most people that were concerned about their privacy already moved on to the competition. Though it's nice to see better support for 2G slow networks, even when it's not for the sake of privacy as they claim.

I'm using their onion service quite often. You can even select DDG Onion as a default search engine in Tor Browser.

Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

#63

This seems nice in theory but reaches the wrong audience. Since a couple months ago DDG decided to block TOR Browser users, so I would guess that most people that were concerned about their privacy already moved on to the competition. Though it's nice to see better support for 2G slow networks, even when it's not for the sake of privacy as they claim.

"Since a couple months ago DDG decided to block TOR Browser users,"

Do you have a source for that claim? A quick search returned nothing.

Edit: I downloaded the (latest version of Tor Browser)-1 (10.0.12) and DDG is on the start page as the default search. No problems searching for things either.

Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

#64

Holy shit the lite version is fast. Comparing to google search it's not even close...wow.

Looking at the network inspector, "lite" version search results load in about 900ms - 1.4sec for non-cached queries. That is fast only compared to the rest of the "big web" maybe, but not _that_ fast in absolute terms (and for context, Google full search results load in usually that much). The bottleneck for DuckDuckGo is probably the Bing API (usually 600-700ms response) for which there is no way around. If you want…

̶L̶i̶t̶e̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶s̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶l̶o̶a̶d̶e̶d̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶1̶9̶3̶m̶s̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶ ̶m̶e̶,̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶I̶'̶m̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶r̶e̶g̶i̶o̶n̶a̶l̶ ̶A̶u̶s̶t̶r̶a̶l̶i̶a̶!̶

Edit: Oops, you mean search results.

DDG Lite Search: 193 ms.

DDG Lite Search results: 1.05 seconds.

Rightdao Search: 629 ms.

Rightdao Search results: 1.15 seconds.

Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

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As someone who's just written about the "small web" [1], this warms my heart. The lite version is probably a little too bare-bones for most people's tastes, but it sure is tiny -- great for people on very slow or flakey connections. Some numbers: HTML homepage transfers 34KB (94KB uncompressed) over 6 requests. HTML search results page transfers 133KB (248KB uncompressed) over 31 requests. Lite homepage transfers 13K…

lite is amazeballs as a command-line utility (leveraging any of several console-mode browsers, including w3m, lynx, links, elinks2, etc.). As a bash (or zsh) function: ddg () { /usr/bin/w3m "https://duckduckgo.com/lite?q=$*&kd=-1" } Note that this enables any bang searches as well, though you'll need to single quote these to avoid attempted history expansion. lite is also my default w3m search bookmark entry. So: ddg…

Wow, that's amazing!

Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

#69

This seems nice in theory but reaches the wrong audience. Since a couple months ago DDG decided to block TOR Browser users, so I would guess that most people that were concerned about their privacy already moved on to the competition. Though it's nice to see better support for 2G slow networks, even when it's not for the sake of privacy as they claim.

> Since a couple months ago DDG decided to block TOR Browser users, so I would guess that most people that were concerned about their privacy already moved on to the competition.

I've used the clearnet DDG site for months over Tor and the only problem I've experienced is that sometimes DDG decides that my exit node isn't acceptable for some reason. This is very rare though (happens about once per month) and the error message makes it very clear that I should just use another exit node (unlike many other sites where I get cryptic error messages or a Google captcha).

Plus as others mentioned, there's an onion service which works as well.

Re: DuckDuckGo – two non-JavaScript versions of search results

#70

Up until not long ago, Google search result pages worked well without JS, and if you sent a suitably old UA header, you'd get the "original" version without mangled URLs or any of the other bloat. Then in 2019 or so, in what I consider to be an extremely hostile move, they started redirecting (using meta tags) to a horrible dumbed-down mobile-ish version and using styles-removed-by-JS to "hide" the actual content of…

I once messed up my user agent string (set it to ten years old FF) and it happily gave me the classic Google homepage.
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