Not surprising but interesting nonetheless.
Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
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Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#62Sorry to be blunt but what do you expect to happen when you breach ana partner agreement you've read and signed? It's the walled path you and other merchants paved, but nothing is stopping you right now from making your own store on a personal site I think? If you need one let me know how I can help you.
He's not a merchant he's an app developer with a saas that shopify merchants can use.
> currently listed on the Shopify App store.
so their company developed a plugin for shopifys walled garden app store - which has T&Cs
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#63why are you surprised?
shopify is a platform that monetizes selling things. no company would allow the kind of freedom you seek. if that's what you want, build your own website and use stripe. it's not that hard.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#64If you delist your Shopify app from the app store you will not have to pay the 20% monthly commission from the new customers. It also means your app is private, and you will have to invest in your distribution channel now. Shopify stores can install it as a Private App, which means you will need to find new customers on your own.
On a different note, I wouldn't recommend building an app that is strongly integrated into the Shopify platform due to a myriad of reasons.
Shopify App store will not give you enough exposure to grow your customer base naturally, you will have to invest in your distribution channel anyways, but now you are tied to a 20% commission since your app is public.
App store ranking system is heavily tuned towards the rate of installations your app has, which means products that offer free, or very cheap pricing plans are getting to the front page. If you offer free or very cheap pricing you will get inundated with customer support requests. The biggest chunk of Shopify customers, have very little understanding how to run an e-commerce store. Handling these requests will be a nightmare. This also means that the Shopify App store is not used anymore by stores that are running on Professional or Shopify Plus platforms, since it is full of apps that are borderline scam, and they can't find valuable services by a simple search.
Shopify understands this as well, that's why they've created Shopify Plus Certified App Store https://www.shopify.com/plus/partners/technology, which is essentially a curated Shopify App store targeting customers who are not afraid of paying money for valuable services. Getting there is not easy since the certification process is not transparent (we've applied but not heard anything from Shopify since then).
Also, Shopify integrates new features into its platform every year getting into more and more verticals. This essentially means that if you build an app that provides important e-commerce functionality, Shopify will probably release the same feature integrated natively into their platform.
All in all, don't bet on the Shopify App Store distribution channel, it is just not worth it.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#65Forgive me for hijacking the discussion but it seems Rails CAN scale right?
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#66Anti-competition laws need an upgrade in this world of platform economies.
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#67Not a surprising practice, but: > Pretty ironic too when you've got Shopify's CEO tweeting about the unfair 30% cut Apple wants: https://twitter.com/tobi/status/1362411841943711744 That's pretty hypocritical
Is it impossible to reach and provide your service to Spotify merchants without going through the Spotify app store? If yes it's hypocritical, if not then the situation is totally different than what is going on with Apple.
Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#68Not a surprising practice, but: > Pretty ironic too when you've got Shopify's CEO tweeting about the unfair 30% cut Apple wants: https://twitter.com/tobi/status/1362411841943711744 That's pretty hypocritical
Is it impossible to reach and provide your service to Spotify merchants without going through the Spotify app store? If yes it's hypocritical, if not then the situation is totally different than what is going on with Apple.
Shopify.
I agree with the case being different to Apple. And not sure why it is hypocritical. Not to mention Shopify holds no clear monopoly over e-commerce. Unless people want to argue the Shopify has a monopoly on Shopify App Store.
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#69Re: Shopify says remove Stripe billing or get booted from their app store
#70It’s the TOS, and after some social platforms were kicked out of big Corp hostings and app stores because of Trump’s scandal, I don’t think there is much you can do aside of sucking it up and planning a well thought migration out of their service.
I don't get why people downvoted you. I make Shopify apps too and I abide to the same TOS.
OP clicked "I have read and agree" on the TOS when signing up and they are now complaining that the fees are unreasonable?!