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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by xwolfi »

rtrdea wrote: post #58
xwolfi wrote: post #38

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It's like people always imagine aliens would appear in the middle of NYC. Maybe Satoshi is a South African student in Glasgow, who moved back with his family to Germany and is shaking his head at BTC's evolution now that he grew up beyond "bruh banks bad" ? He did an overly inefficient distributed linked list, which is replicated thousands of times by smaller projects to yield exactly the same value (the "bruh banks…

Banks are bad

Banks are like tigers: they eat gazelles and they sleep under the sun.

I mean, banks are just banks, what's bad maybe is people expecting them to do more than store your wealth for a fee ?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by londons_explore »

nanagojo wrote: post #45
mantap wrote: post #39

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This is well trodden ground but the genesis block message plus the distinctly British style of his writing convinces me that Satoshi has some connection with the UK.

But, in his announcement he spelt "decentralized". Which isn't the British way.

When I write code or here on HN, I try to use Americanisms... But when writing longer form or official things, I use British English.

I doubt I'm the only one.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by nikolay »

kragen wrote: post #25

Pretty sure Len thought Bitcoin was a profound abortion of an idea: https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/77358901774917632 > Right; why would they [mention Bitcoin in the cypherpunk panel on digital currencies], though? Bitcoin pretty much fails as a cypherpunk protocol. https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/81121594373709825 > That only works if you want to leave the inflated value of Bitcoin on the table; otherw…

That's true about Windows. And that's why I believe Paul Le Roux is Satoshi.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by mantap »

nanagojo wrote: post #45
mantap wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is well trodden ground but the genesis block message plus the distinctly British style of his writing convinces me that Satoshi has some connection with the UK.

But, in his announcement he spelt "decentralized". Which isn't the British way.

Actually this is a common misconception. BrE allows either -ise or -ize, whereas AmE only permits -ize. The -ize spelling in BrE is called "oxford spelling" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by kragen »

elliotec wrote: post #54
kragen wrote: post #25

Pretty sure Len thought Bitcoin was a profound abortion of an idea: https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/77358901774917632 > Right; why would they [mention Bitcoin in the cypherpunk panel on digital currencies], though? Bitcoin pretty much fails as a cypherpunk protocol. https://twitter.com/lensassaman/status/81121594373709825 > That only works if you want to leave the inflated value of Bitcoin on the table; otherw…

None of those tweets point to anything close to a "profound abortion of an idea" - in fact, I think these are almost supporting the claim. "we could do BitCoin right" and "it fails as a cypherpunk protocol" could be simple self-critiques or misdirections or even sly jokes. Saying bitcoin has an inflated value also doesn't mean this person didn't create it. Didn't Elon just recently say Tesla is way overvalued? The Un…

I never heard Len say anything positive about Bitcoin. He devoted his life to guaranteeing people privacy; Bitcoin makes all transactions permanently public. If he'd managed to design a Bitcoin it would be something like Mimblewimble.

> The Unix vs Windows argument is pretty silly.

That doesn't amount to a counterargument. POSIX C++ and Win32 C++ have very distinctly different styles, and Satoshi's Bitcoin codebase is a lot more similar to the latter.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by basilisks »

Tenoke wrote: post #35
sneak wrote: post #16

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Satoshi's silence period began at the same time that Gavin Andressen went to the CIA (at the CIA's invitation) to present about Bitcoin. It is widely assumed that it was caused by Andressen's decision to accept the invite. Just because Satoshi went silent for a while doesn't mean that he/they are dead.

If it was Gavin Andressen then why the hell did he support the claims that Craig Wright is Satoshi initially?

If it was Andressen, why wouldn't he support the claim that Satoshi is someone besides himself?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by rdl »

axiosgunnar wrote: post #11
paulie_a wrote: post #3

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I've never bought the argument about kidnappings etc, with billions of dollars you can hire people with lots of guns

I think the problem is that if you are born into a family of billionaires, it comes with connections and you probably just kinda had people with guns since generations so you just keep it up But when you suddenly become a billionaire, what do you do? Ring up some private security company? You would need to trust them not to screw you over. It's kinda boils down to you not being able to trust anyone, not even governme…

There are plenty of publicly traded large security companies. They may not be the absolute best, but they're not going to screw you over.

I would feel pretty comfortable calling G4S, Securitas, GardaWorld, DynCorp, Brinks, Control Risks, etc.

Alternative, you call the whitest of white shoe law firms and retain them to find a good security firm for you.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by baby »

basilisks wrote: post #66
Tenoke wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it was Gavin Andressen then why the hell did he support the claims that Craig Wright is Satoshi initially?

If it was Andressen, why wouldn't he support the claim that Satoshi is someone besides himself?

Why would he even have met with him?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi

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Post by DINKDINK »

WalterBright wrote: post #42
nodesocket wrote: post #30

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I thought that Hal denied being Satoshi in his final days?

My recollection of his last interview is he didn't respond other than grinning.

Would you please either cite the source for your recollection or retract it? Hal had always denied being bitcoin's author:

   "he confirmed that he had corresponded with Bitcoin's creator, but denied any connection to the invention of Bitcoin"[1]
Hal's family has had to endure threats of violence because people surmise they have control over millions of bitcoins. To fuel that speculation puts a very large, very violent target on their back. They deserve more respect -- especially because of the selfless contributions Hal made to cryptography and the cypherpunk movement.

[1] >In the mean time, I emailed Finney a few times. When I didn't hear back--he's been mostly absent from the Internet as his paralysis deepens--I called his wife, Fran, who now works as Finney's full-time caregiver. She explained her husband's medical situation, and patiently relayed my questions to him. Using his eyebrows and eye movements, as she described to me over the phone, he confirmed that he had corresponded with Bitcoin's creator, but denied any connection to the invention of Bitcoin or the Dorian Nakamoto Newsweek had named, just as he would when I visited a week later. "For all Hal knew, Satoshi Nakamoto could have been next door, or he could have been in Japan," Fran said.

source: https://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/25/satosh...

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