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A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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I want to express sympathies in a particular way: When I had a job I didn’t want, in a city i didn’t want, no kids, no wife, and prospects abounding, it was easy to speak truth to power. I did it, and I was right technically, businesswise, and morally. What a win...(?) Now, I have my dream job, my dream location, my own damn house, and my family. -Whole thing feels like a dream I might wake up from if I am not carefu…

"I was right technically, businesswise, and morally."

... and in third place, morality. And now lost in the distance.

I'm not a Christian, but this is worth considering by everyone:

"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul? Or what will a man give as an exchange for his soul?"

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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post #5

The paper is "3D-based video recognition acceleration by leveraging temporal locality". Haven't found a copy online. I'd expect a paper like that to come with examples and a link to Github. Why fake something like that? Either the paper is ignored, or someone implements it and finds it doesn't work.

Here: https://sci-hub.se/10.1145/3307650.3322260

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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The sheer amount of typos here is....challenging. And I'm not one to pick on someone who's doing their best to communicate in a second language or anything but shoot this really could've used a copy editor.

We are really sorry for these mistakes in langauge. Can you please send an email to huixiangvoice@gmail.com with details of these language mistakes so that we can try to fix it. Thanks

activate the spell-checker.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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post #5

The paper is "3D-based video recognition acceleration by leveraging temporal locality". Haven't found a copy online. I'd expect a paper like that to come with examples and a link to Github. Why fake something like that? Either the paper is ignored, or someone implements it and finds it doesn't work.

As someone with a little experience in ML research, I feel like outside of the top 5-10 conferences, there rarely is a code repo [1]. I think an even bigger issue is that even when a repo is provided, it's often poorly documented, contains dead links, or _hard to reproduce on other machines_ without code-wrangling. Tangentially related, even popular repos can have implementations of models that differ from the paper…

Somethings that’s personally bothered me for a long time is that as far as I know, there’s now current way to check the test accuracy on imagenet, as the test server has been gone for awhile. Yet somehow people still report a test accuracy…

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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post #19

I want to express sympathies in a particular way: When I had a job I didn’t want, in a city i didn’t want, no kids, no wife, and prospects abounding, it was easy to speak truth to power. I did it, and I was right technically, businesswise, and morally. What a win...(?) Now, I have my dream job, my dream location, my own damn house, and my family. -Whole thing feels like a dream I might wake up from if I am not carefu…

Tragically, a non-trivial number of Ph.D. students commit suicide. It's natural to gradually put all your eggs in the imagined Ph.D. outcome (e.g., an idealized notion of a professorship) with increasing depth as the years wear on. After multiple years and a huge emotional and intellectual commitment, if you start to see the cracks in the structure, and you cannot reconcile the newly perceived reality with your model and goal, it can be absolutely devastating.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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post #43
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I take it you meant to say 'competing lab' instead of 'concurrent lab' in your 2nd to last comment.

Curious. In Swedish we say "konkurrerande" for "competing", I guess adev speaks a language that does something similar. In Danish they say konkurrence for competition.

Konkurencja in Polish, which sounds very very similar to concurrence

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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post #39

From the suicide note: > Considering that this will have an impact on my career in the future and my reputation in the area of Computer Architecture, my future life will be worse than death and I will be totally in a dilemma. Maybe we also need to change academic culture to allow people to confess academic fraud, receive punishment and than be forgiven and continue academic careers. Currently once you started, there…

Forgiveness definitely should have its place, particularly for minor offenses, however the consequences are often multifaceted and tangled. For example, as research often uses public (government) funds, there are sometimes criminal consequences attached. [0][1]

A secondary issue is trying to determine what penalty is fair and trying to determine whether an error was intentional or unintentional. The boundaries are admitted by most to be fuzzy. Moreover there is a desire to exact punishment:

> A recent survey of roughly 1,800 people in the United States found that 90 percent of those who responded believe that fabricating data is morally repugnant. Preferred punishments include being blacklisted from university positions and being banned from government funding for future research, but don’t end there.

> “Most respondents who support criminalization prefer a sentence of incarceration, rather than a fine and/or probation,” according to the researchers, Justin Pickett and Sean Patrick Roche, both of the University at Albany. “The results indicate that slightly over half of all Americans would prefer both to criminalize data fraud and to sentence fraudsters to a period of incarceration.” [2]

... and then there's China, where the penalties sought seem even higher. [1][3] However, given the investment in most researchers and their specialized skills, it seems a huge waste to lock up that person in a way that prevents society from benefitting.

Finally, you have the problem of coordinating the action. With criminal behaviour, society coordinates action (for the most part) in order to achieve reasonable justice: Otherwise every person willing to act independently (as a vigilante) to extract an additional pound of flesh. We would need everyone to agree, otherwise you have situations where there is no punishment because someone breaks an embargo or you have too much punishment because multiple agents inflict punishment separately.

Your typical person breaking the law is stuck within one country. It's a bit more complicated for researchers, since most are highly mobile. A PhD in a STEM topic means visas are almost automatically granted, so it's relatively easy to get a position in a different country.

(It would be really interesting to see a follow-up on all of the researchers featured in [1], since that was written back in 2007.)

[0] http://navier.engr.colostate.edu/CH693/prot/Nature_445_244_2... [1] https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1747016119898400 [2] https://www.statnews.com/2016/08/04/fraud-science-jail-time/ [3] https://www.statnews.com/2017/06/23/china-death-penalty-rese...

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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post #39

From the suicide note: > Considering that this will have an impact on my career in the future and my reputation in the area of Computer Architecture, my future life will be worse than death and I will be totally in a dilemma. Maybe we also need to change academic culture to allow people to confess academic fraud, receive punishment and than be forgiven and continue academic careers. Currently once you started, there…

I don’t think that’s a good idea.

The analogy with financial debt is misleading: people go bankrupt even if they don’t do anything “wrong”, things don’t pan out, or disasters hit. For people that do commit financial crimes, they are prosecuted and face criminal punishment and often lose their ability to continue to be involved in finance.

Academia doesn’t have that kind of strict laws, likely because academic fraud doesn’t affect the general population and is limited in the damage it can do, or hasn’t received similar attention as financial fraud. So making it even more tempting to commit academic fraud isn’t something I would recommend.

The really straightforward solution here seems to be to make these institutions recognize the professors (even the prestigious ones) are human and can commit fraud, and thus to create ways for students to give feedback on such kinds of frauds to the institution, based on which the institution must take action.

Re: A Dishonest, Indifferent, and Toxic Culture

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I do some work in a certain field of digital signal processing. From time to time I look at the latest academic papers in that field and am always shocked by the poor quality. Probably 90% of the papers couldn't be repeated due to a lack of source code , the worse ones just have Simulink 'blocks' to illustrate the code. The techniques in this field used by industry for commercial products are never mentioned it's as if they exist on another planet. I can only presume anyone who knows what they are doing in this field works in industry while what remains in Universities have to produce a certain number of papers every year despite the quality. It really is a waste of everyones time and effort.
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