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Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by gifnamething »

SilasX wrote: post #60
spapas82 wrote: post #2

K-9 is a really great mail app for android! In my opinion it's the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc. It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. People that either want to avoid walled gardens or…

I'm a little miffed that this comment has a better explanation of "why I should care about K-9 Mail" than anything I could find from deliberately looking for that information on their site. The "about" page just talks about the team, and their blog posts, even the one "what's up with K-9?" just talk about release schedules.

The features are listed on the homepage

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by berkes »

rjzzleep wrote: post #7
mahmoudhossam wrote: post #3

I'm surprised there's no work being done on the UI on the roadmap, K-9 looks like an app from the "Ice Cream Sandwich" days of Android. With that being said, K-9 is the best Android app I've seen for mail that isn't made by Google. edit: it seems the work has already been done, thanks for the correction.

I mostly agree, but I'm quite liking Fairemail [1] [1] https://github.com/M66B/FairEmail

I've moved to SimpleEmail, which is a fork of FairEmail. Donated to both though. SimpleEmail ripped out the donation part in their fork, which is their right under GPL, but not a nice move IMO. Main reason for me is the fast pace with which FairEmail was iterating. Often with breaking changes. I like my email app to be boring. Which FairEmail is, thanks.

K9, to me, is just too much options and features. A lot of which needed tweaking and tuning, and were not something one could simply ignore.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by jorams »

freebuju wrote: post #37
Krasnol wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tried to install it from F-Droid, didn't work. Installed it from Github, it wanted me to pay for putting a colour on my account(??) and it will remind me of something something. Nah man...don't do that if you actually want to sell a pro version. Just state it upfront and I will consider it. putting it in while I'm already adding an account and letting me read some long list of features I won't have if I continue righ…

Fairmail is not meant to be a free-to-use product. I very well remember checking their readME and almost immediately recognizing this fact. OTOH the "free-tier" is what attracts your interest as bait, probably accounts for the number of app installs visible on the store too etc.

The README has a single section about Pro features, and it starts with "All pro features are convenience or advanced features".

That definitely looks like the non-pro version is meant to be a free-to-use product.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by paulryanrogers »

bogwog wrote: post #47

I remember using K-9 when I got my first (or second?) Android phone. I don’t remember the exact version, but it was probably pre-ICS. I do remember that I liked it a lot. Fast forward to a couple of years ago, I tried the app again and was disappointed at how it looked basically identical to the last time I tried it. Seeing that, I just assumed it became abandonware. Does this fund raiser mean I was wrong, and the ap…

Try the beta. It was a new UI.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by cge »

spapas82 wrote: post #2

K-9 is a really great mail app for android! In my opinion it's the best app if you want to use a custom SMTP/IMAP server instead of using a solution like hotmail/google/etc. It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge. People that either want to avoid walled gardens or…

>It also has PGP support (with the help of OpenKeyChain to manage certificates) that works great! There are no other well known solutions for applications supporting PGP in Android; this is huge.

As a caveat here, at least in the non-beta version, support for PGP signatures is intentionally crippled because the original author dislikes them and apparently wants to push encryption (eg, https://github.com/k9mail/k-9/issues/2375), ignoring everyone who points out that this feature may be important or required by policy for them. By default, PGP signatures on unencrypted emails are silently hidden and the emails are displayed as being unsigned. There is no way to sign emails by default, and trying to sign an email results with a popup telling you not to.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by stonesweep »

GordonS wrote: post #55
btittelbach wrote: post #41

K-9 Mail is like, the _only_, sane e-Mail Android app out there. Pitching in for sure.

Not the only one - I started using Nine a year ago, after switching from something else that has been abandoned (I forget the name, but I'd been using it for years because it supported bypassing Exchange security lock down). Absolutely love Nine - it works marvellously with my own IMAP and SMTP servers, my work O365 etc. And everything in the UI is configurable. I think Nine is actually the only Android app I've ever…

I have licenses for both Nine and AquaMail with the same purpose (operates with work-required MFA via O365+adfs+RSASecureID token) and would highly encourage you to look at AquaMail. If you thought Nine was configurable, hold on to your hat - AquaMail is all that and more, I highly prefer AquaMail to Nine for business email.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by swanswan »

Aachen wrote: post #29
richardwhiuk wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In order to release a new version to the appstores, both Google and Apple require a certain minimum version for the app to be compiled against. Historically, Apple gives you about a year before you have to compile against the latest SDK, and Google gave you a lot longer. However, recently, both have become more aggressive about requiring new versions to be compiled against the latest SDKs. Thus you can't do a "proper…

Does this also mean older devices are forced into obsolescence? Since this is minsdk and not maxsdk it sounds like it, but there's still many apps that run on my 2018 device with Android 7 (and even 2012 device with 4.4) so that can't really be.

Well anyway older devices are indeed forced into obsolescence, at least OS-wise.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by mgbmtl »

jorams wrote: post #64
freebuju wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fairmail is not meant to be a free-to-use product. I very well remember checking their readME and almost immediately recognizing this fact. OTOH the "free-tier" is what attracts your interest as bait, probably accounts for the number of app installs visible on the store too etc.

The README has a single section about Pro features, and it starts with "All pro features are convenience or advanced features". That definitely looks like the non-pro version is meant to be a free-to-use product.

I use the free version and happy with it.

Re: K-9 Mail is looking for funding

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Post by kgwxd »

bogwog wrote: post #47

I remember using K-9 when I got my first (or second?) Android phone. I don’t remember the exact version, but it was probably pre-ICS. I do remember that I liked it a lot. Fast forward to a couple of years ago, I tried the app again and was disappointed at how it looked basically identical to the last time I tried it. Seeing that, I just assumed it became abandonware. Does this fund raiser mean I was wrong, and the ap…

The release version is from 2018 but I just found out about the beta version in this thread, which looks more modern, not sure how modern though, just about every app I use looks different, so I'm not sure what today's standards are. I've been using it for at least 5 years without much issue.
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