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I can't believe I've been a HN user for 14 years. Things come and go but HN was one of the very very few web sites that I visited pretty much every day for this whole time. Except for rare hiking trip days. It's also amazing how the spirit and the quality stay more or less the same here. I guess not all Eternal September effects are alike.
Thanks Dang
downvote abuse has gotten particularly bad and I don't think there's any algorithm to stop downvote spam. It is a long standing issue on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17612885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23997697
downvote abuse has gotten particularly bad and I don't think there's any algorithm to stop downvote spam. It is a long standing issue on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17612885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23997697
"downvote abuse" === "whiny loser community"
downvote abuse has gotten particularly bad and I don't think there's any algorithm to stop downvote spam. It is a long standing issue on HN https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17612885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23997697
I'm not convinced there's an actual problem with downvotes on HN. It mostly seems that way when you take a snapshot of a page, but waiting an hour (if the comment section is active and the topic is not controversial), grey comments have a tendency to become un-grey over time unless they fall into a few categories. Maybe someone doing NLP research and sentiment analysis could put together a more thorough analysis, but…
basically I'm learning there's no algorithm protection against this so I guess I'm not going to play nice either anymore.
It's time to dust off all the aged HN accounts I've accumulated over the past few years and it's open season now ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'm openly declaring my intent to abuse the downvote feature with multiple nicks if Dang isn't going to fix it. The algorithm clearly isn't working to protect against it so I will keep going until they fix it.
I can't believe I've been a HN user for 14 years. Things come and go but HN was one of the very very few web sites that I visited pretty much every day for this whole time. Except for rare hiking trip days. It's also amazing how the spirit and the quality stay more or less the same here. I guess not all Eternal September effects are alike.
Thanks pg and dang!
I can't believe I've been a HN user for 14 years. Things come and go but HN was one of the very very few web sites that I visited pretty much every day for this whole time. Except for rare hiking trip days. It's also amazing how the spirit and the quality stay more or less the same here. I guess not all Eternal September effects are alike.
Same here, although you and the commenter have me beat by a couple of months. Unlike some, I have never sworn off HN and left in a huff. HN is where I learned about the drawbacks of where internet tech was going. Many of us started with a desire to build sticky sites and apps, but as some startups mastered this, it became obvious that this was two-edged sword. I miss PG being on, but I completely understand why he le…
I can't believe I've been a HN user for 14 years. Things come and go but HN was one of the very very few web sites that I visited pretty much every day for this whole time. Except for rare hiking trip days. It's also amazing how the spirit and the quality stay more or less the same here. I guess not all Eternal September effects are alike.
Pretty much the same here, except you have me by almost exactly a year. But yeah, HN has been the one constant site that I visit more than any other. And probably the site I'm most "active" on other than Facebook.
It's also amazing how the spirit and the quality stay more or less the same here. I guess not all Eternal September effects are alike.
True. That said, I definitely feel like I recognize some changes in the prevailing zeitgeist here. For example, there seems to be less startup ecosystem oriented discussion, and when there is, it often has a more negative tone. Actually, I feel like there's more negativity in general, than in the days of yore. And while others argue the exact opposite of what I'm about to say, I really feel like the overall spirit of the site has drifted from away from a libertarian / pro-business / be-suspicious-of-the-government vibe, to more anti-business / pro-government one. It's subjective to be sure, but it sure feels that way to me. Whether that's a good or a bad thing is, I suppose, relative to one's pre-existing biases and viewpoints...
Still, regardless of any of that, the S/N ratio of the conversations here remains fairly high most of the time, and I still learn a lot from participating in these conversations. So here's hoping for another 13 years of this crazy orange and tan website...
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I've been reading some old (olde?) tech references, forecasts, and futurist works of late, and am noting a few trends. Among them are Alvin Toffler's Future Shock , which turned 50 last year, read for the first time, Lawrence Lessig's Code and Other Laws of Cyberspace (22 years), a re-read, and Andrew Shapiro's The Control Revolution , also for the first time. All have hits and misses. Some of them are more slanted o…
Interesting thoughts, thanks. > - Benefit / harm > - Near term / long term > - Clearly evident / non-evident I still think that in addition to these things it's the growth function, the linear segments of it, then sudden non-linearity that we fundamentally always get wrong in our predictions. Think of the 1960-1970s that was considered the era of space exploration or the beginning of it, and how people wrongly extrap…
Anything that functions as a network, and this includes information itself, can see periods of exponential growth. Which itself doesn't mean "very fast", but as we all (re-)learned last year, "imperceptibly slowly at first, then very suddenly".
The other elements tend to have other sorts of interactions, and a key reason for splitting up the mechanisms as I did was around not only the technical operations, but the economic implications. In particular, hygiene factors, unlike (but also intrinsically tied to) network mechanisms, behave very differently. That's explored somewhat in this post (principally in comments): https://joindiaspora.com/posts/e045d2304aec0139cee5002590d8e...
(That's very preliminary, I'm developing thoughts, and need to do a proper write-up. The fact that I was thinking along those lines spurred a draft version after one line of responses in the thread.)
And you could add all kinds of other elements. So long as you're discussing nonlinearity, there are chaotic systems which can suddenly transition between states, or collapse entirely. There are long-latent potentials waiting for a trigger or opportunity which suddenly spread forth. There are interactions effects. There are subtle accidents of space and time. (Historians and anthropologists tend to haet haet haet heavily on geological determination, but to ignore it entirely strikes me as a peculiar fetish.)
Prediction is hard, especially about the future. But there do seem to be some trends which emerge. And the role of negative unintended consequences does seem to me a significant one.
Markets and financial systems ... that's a whole 'nother game.
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I’ve been here since 2012. I feel there has been a shift from startup and programming discussions to more general interests. Definitely a lot more political debates here. Now Indiehackers forum feels more like the old HN.
Could it be due to an influx of Reddit refugees that have left the platform due to its serious decline of quality in the past couple of years?
unalone on Nov 6, 2009 in "Ask HN: Is it just me, or are HN comments becoming..."
I'm at a year and a half. Hacker News is turning into Reddit. It's following the exact same path, albeit thankfully slower, and the causes behind that path—influx of users, need for attention, karma lust—aren't causes that Paul is looking to fix.
Reddit's not the worst thing in the world, but make no mistake, we're headed there.
The earliest linked:
_csoo on Apr 17, 2007 - Since when is Startup News synonymous with reddit?
That Guideline with the links suggests "Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills."