For most news organizations in our new world order it's not an error if it's intentional bias. Those are called lies. Lies have a purpose. We need to ask, "Why lie?". And then use the answer to fix the news.
What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
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Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#62I wish the NYT would clarify or retract this piece/headline https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/russia-cyber-... > Widely Used Software Company May Be Entry Point for Huge U.S. Hacking > Russian hackers may have piggybacked on a tool developed by JetBrains, which is based in the Czech Republic, to gain access to federal government and private sector systems in the United States. My company has banned Jetbr…
If your company bases security decisions on articles in the NYT then they’re beyond helping. Frankly that’s both laughable and incompetent.
No professional (in any field) should base a decision solely on something written in any secondary source. Even if it was a specialist publication, a competent professional should do their own research, and look at the primary sources.
Imagine if a doctor or civil engineer based professional decisions on what they read in magazines and newspapers. The thought is horrifying.
The problem is not that the NYT article is factually incorrect (if in fact Jet Brains were being investigated, which seems plausible). The problem is that anyone who’s reasoning skills exceed that of a five year old child should realise that there is a good possibility that the investigation would turn out to be a red herring.
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#63Headline, abstract and URL edits to NYT are tracked by @nyt_diff on Twitter, it can be very interesting to see: https://twitter.com/nyt_diff Not sure if they only catch front page article changes or what. Newspaper article content is a big game that’s worth tracking, but what’s more difficult (probably nearly impossible right now) is local television news. Tons of news is pushed through to a wide audience and then it…
The Internet Archive captures both television and radio news, though obviously it's only a fraction of the total. https://archive.org/details/tv and https://archive.org/details/radio
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#64I wish the NYT would clarify or retract this piece/headline https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/russia-cyber-... > Widely Used Software Company May Be Entry Point for Huge U.S. Hacking > Russian hackers may have piggybacked on a tool developed by JetBrains, which is based in the Czech Republic, to gain access to federal government and private sector systems in the United States. My company has banned Jetbr…
Out of curiosity, what would you want to see clarified? They said that it “may” be an entry point for the SW hack and, according to some National Security folks, it is being investigated. Is there reason to believe this is incorrect in some way? It may be premature and amount to nothing if Team City had nothing to do with the breach, but it doesn’t appear to be misleading or false. If it was, I’d imagine JetBrains wo…
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Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#65I wish the NYT would clarify or retract this piece/headline https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/russia-cyber-... > Widely Used Software Company May Be Entry Point for Huge U.S. Hacking > Russian hackers may have piggybacked on a tool developed by JetBrains, which is based in the Czech Republic, to gain access to federal government and private sector systems in the United States. My company has banned Jetbr…
I have a similar experience, where Jetbrains is effectively banned. Do you have any updated source that I could circulate to clear their name?
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#66Seems like it would be easy to have a change log at the bottom of every article that tracks edits. There’s probably three free widgets like this on GitHub that would work just fine.
It’s not just knowing the edit history, however. When journalists make mistakes their retractions and corrections must be given the same exposure as the original content, to correct the record meaningfully. Otherwise the damage has already been done and people will take the initial content with them forward, shaping their opinions accordingly.
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#67I wish the NYT would clarify or retract this piece/headline https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/russia-cyber-... > Widely Used Software Company May Be Entry Point for Huge U.S. Hacking > Russian hackers may have piggybacked on a tool developed by JetBrains, which is based in the Czech Republic, to gain access to federal government and private sector systems in the United States. My company has banned Jetbr…
If your company bases security decisions on articles in the NYT then they’re beyond helping. Frankly that’s both laughable and incompetent. No professional (in any field) should base a decision solely on something written in any secondary source. Even if it was a specialist publication, a competent professional should do their own research, and look at the primary sources. Imagine if a doctor or civil engineer based…
In our field it is actually a reputational risk issue, but you're right. The fact they couldn't come up with a better solution than banning Jetbrains doesn't speak well.
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#68I wish the NYT would clarify or retract this piece/headline https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/politics/russia-cyber-... > Widely Used Software Company May Be Entry Point for Huge U.S. Hacking > Russian hackers may have piggybacked on a tool developed by JetBrains, which is based in the Czech Republic, to gain access to federal government and private sector systems in the United States. My company has banned Jetbr…
"Hacker used linux."
ipso facto linux is dangerous
ipso facto ban linux.
"Hacker was breathing oxygen"
oxygen aids cyber terrorism
...
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#69Earlier quoted context omitted.
I've seen articles on NPR and Reuters that have brief summaries of edits at the bottom. Stuff like "Edited to correct affiliation of Dr X. The article originally and incorrectly said she worked at Y University." They'll also put an "edited at" time at the top.
More often they stealth edit to remove evidence of their inaccuracies or lies, though.
Source?
Re: What happens when the NYT and New Yorker make mistakes
#70One of the problems with trust is that people see corrections and admitting ignorance as signs of unreliability and confidence and stubbornness as signs of reliability. I can't count the number of times someone arguing with me has dug up a correction or retraction page on something unrelated as proof that a source is nonsense. If they did issue a pile of corrections and changes, this post would instead be "the thousa…
Instead of trying to engineer trust, why not actually be trustworthy, admit your mistakes and become better?