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Social Media Influencer Charged with Election Interference
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Re: Social Media Influencer Charged with Election Interference
#62The meme in question: https://twitter.com/squid_o_the_day/status/13544897278319697...
> ironically the joke meme the rеtard stalinists are now hysterically pretending was "еlection interference" is basically how they interfered with this еlection. Unfortunately, I'm not fluent in Clickbaitian. Will someone who is please translate?
The squid tweeter is pretending that legal voting by mail in 2020 is equivalent to setting up a fake "vote by txt" system under fraudulent pretenses in 2016.
Re: Social Media Influencer Charged with Election Interference
#63A leftwing "comedian" did the same thing, directed at Trump voters:
https://twitter.com/mskristinawong/status/795999059987173377
When is the FBI coming for her?
And where are the "it's a private company" censorship apologists now? The slope is slippery after all.
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#64Is everyone else thinking what I'm thinking? Did Trump suppress this investigation for 4 years?
It might not have been active suppression but a chilling effect on investigations of this kind.
> chilling effect
The only "chilling effect" is people facing ten years in prison for memes.
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#65So can people sue 4chan for microwaving their iPhones?
It's more obvious that microwaving your phone is bad than voting by phone or web is bad, more obvious that any given made-up benefit of microwaving your phone is untrue than the ability to vote by phone or web is, and not as harmful as losing your vote. The comparison has too many faults to be useful. You should address the issue directly, rather than relying on analogies.
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do we feel about some kind of objective standardized test that you'd have to pass in order to be allowed to vote? Should cover some high-school basics as well as an understanding of the published platform for all major candidates in the election.
Places have tried this (look up the history of "literacy tests"), and it mostly functioned as a mechanism to discriminate against voters of certain classes. Long term, if you have a test to vote and, say, people somewhere don't tend to vote the way you like, but you have control of the funding for their education system, it's easy enough to make decisions that net reduce that population's ability to vote.
> it mostly functioned as a mechanism to discriminate against voters of certain classes
Well, we can set the bar wherever we like; the question was ultimately "can we have a bar at all".
Since some people seem to think that even asking for ID is too high of a bar, it's clear to me that there's a market into catering to extremely-low-information voters; not that anyone is every going to _do_ a damned thing for them, but you can certainly make hollow promises easily enough.
An alternate requirement if we want a higher bar than an academic test would be to require that one own land and have children before you're allowed to vote, or something like that.
Perhaps a combination of alternatives could be offered. The question I'm really trying to ask is whether it's at all reasonable to do something to increase the quality of the vote.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
How do we feel about some kind of objective standardized test that you'd have to pass in order to be allowed to vote? Should cover some high-school basics as well as an understanding of the published platform for all major candidates in the election.
How do you feel about the fact that these existed and were outlawed? https://ballotpedia.org/Literacy_as_a_requirement_for_voting
Seems like a shame, honestly. The test could certainly have evolved, like IQ tests have, to be less focused on particular cultural knowledge and just be a general test of capability.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
Places have tried this (look up the history of "literacy tests"), and it mostly functioned as a mechanism to discriminate against voters of certain classes. Long term, if you have a test to vote and, say, people somewhere don't tend to vote the way you like, but you have control of the funding for their education system, it's easy enough to make decisions that net reduce that population's ability to vote.
> it mostly functioned as a mechanism to discriminate against voters of certain classes Well, we can set the bar wherever we like; the question was ultimately "can we have a bar at all". Since some people seem to think that even asking for ID is too high of a bar, it's clear to me that there's a market into catering to extremely-low-information voters; not that anyone is every going to _do_ a damned thing for them, b…
>The question I'm really trying to ask is whether it's at all reasonable to do something to increase the quality of the vote.
Absolutely. I'm 100% for programs to promote literacy and civic education. Reduce corporate political financing so that politicians _have to_ appeal to their constituencies. Increase the density of elected representatives so that each representative has a constituency small enough for them to actually reasonably represent.