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Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Re: Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm

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Why is this anything other than direct foreign interference in the democratic process?

This cant be true if Amazon deplatforming Parler isnt also interference in the democratic process

I don't think that makes any sense, unless we now live in a truly post-truth world I think those things are basically independent of eachother.

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I’m not sure where all this hate on parler is coming from. While Twitter allowed the trending of #AssassinateTrump and #killtrump plus all the violence and destruction orchestrated on Twitter during the BLM protests on hundreds of small businesses in America where far more damage and fatalities occurred then the capital riots and big tech especially Apple, Amazon and Facebook were quite about. This is a collaboration…

I'll believe you if you can find BLM people running around the centre of American Democracy looking for scalps.

> This is a collaboration against conservatives and the greatest form of censorship America has ever experienced. This is how democracy dies.

The US Electoral system is measurably biased towards conservatives, get some perspective.

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post #39

FWIW we don't know where it's hosted now, that's the point of DDoS-Guard, and the Reuters article makes no claim the site is 'hosted by Russia.'

This reminds me of the recent attempt to blame TeamCity for the Solarwinds hack, because TeamCity’s CEO is Russian [0]. A disturbing trend in journalism, IMO. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/us/p...

Someone changed this HN post title now to "Parler partially reappears with support from Russian technology firm" which is both true and what the Reuters headline originally was.

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post #29

Democracy works best when critical thinking skills and public disclosure of information co-operate. Better understanding why people believe in the conspiracy theories and fixing the social ills that radicalize portions of the population will be critical factors during my entire adult lifetime. For the US, and for the world at large. We need to learn how to prevent terrorists from being created and in so doing advance…

This is an interesting take that I'd like to dig into a little more... Do you mind expanding on if there are any known ways to achieve this?

That isn't my area of expertise, but I recognize that I would like those who are experts to examine the situation and make such proposals.

I did mention one basic thing that I think would help. Better critical thinking education. Help people understand common logical fallacies. Help people consider critically that others might be lying out of self benefit and to focus added skepticism against any claims that might align with such incentives. Focus on emotion as a tool for knowing where to focus more of that light of logic on the situation and examine why those feelings arose. To not blindly believe but to seek the truth of a situation.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> far more damage and fatalities Name the fatalities from BLM activities.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_d...

I suspect you mean:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_and_controversies_dur...

...which is a list of all deaths surrounding the events. There are only a few that actually fall within the bounds of the question:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/22/white-supremac...

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strict rules and guidelines that were apparently violated, and they took no action to resolve - this is a paper thin excuse that no one should repeat.

This comment isn't helpful. Could you support it with instances of when they took action versus when they didn't? Currently, you only posted your opinion.

I can only post my opinion. Although I did join Parler and explored it this summer I haven't followed it closely or used it much. I did read their terms and conditions.

What I do know is that Facebook played a far larger role in the organization of the #stopthesteal demonstrations and the associated capitol security failures earlier this month but have received no sanctions.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/business/2021/01/18/facebook-sher...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> far more damage and fatalities Name the fatalities from BLM activities.

How many do you want? Because there have been dozens of murders, even entirely setting aside accidental and incidental deaths.

The official number for 2020 appears to be 25 (not including last week), however conservatives seem very interested in representing this as a list of "people BLM murdered" when it's really a list of all deaths due to political violence. It includes people who were killed by police, individuals murdered by far right individuals, and that one guy shot by a left wing extremist at a protest.

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post #29

Democracy works best when critical thinking skills and public disclosure of information co-operate. Better understanding why people believe in the conspiracy theories and fixing the social ills that radicalize portions of the population will be critical factors during my entire adult lifetime. For the US, and for the world at large. We need to learn how to prevent terrorists from being created and in so doing advance…

We already know the answer to a lot of this. Algorithms that increase "engagement" by promoting controversy promote conspiracy theories, because conspiracy theories are controversial and get everybody arguing.

The first generation of response to this was to tweak the algorithm to favor "trusted" sources, but still promote controversy. This seems to be going extremely poorly, because it's encouraging the "trusted" sources to become radicalized in an effort to get promoted by the algorithms.

The actual solution probably involves not optimizing for engagement anymore, but that's a business model change.

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