Sci-Hub Is Now on the ‘Uncensorable Web’

Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:22 PM UTC

rasengan wrote: post #42

stevespang wrote: post #13

Just tried to download and install handshake. Requires docker. Just tried to download and install docker on windows 7, failed install, requires more stuff. Opinion: This will never become a realization until these people realize the average Joe is not going to jump through all these hoops just to get an alternative browser up and running. It should be simple and seamless. Less than 1% will bother with all this.

It doesn’t require docker! You can install directly on windows, Mac and Linux [1]. This is how I have it running (for the past 8 months)! https://github.com/handshake-org/hsd

Post by Proziam » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:23 PM UTC

wolco5 wrote: post #57

obblekk wrote: post #38

I’m supportive of free distribution of scientific knowledge, BUT HN has a significant bias against believing in the power of legal systems. No matter how good the technology, it can eventually be censored if the law is strong enough. In the past, it was hard to separate “useful” internet activity from “illegitimate” because things were changing quickly. Today, a government might say its simply illegal to use end to e…

Encription was banned in the US but it didn't work out so well. Parler build itself on Amazon which was the big mistake the next company won't follow. It's a wakeup call to anyone using the cloud that one day it might decide you are not welcome.

Post by shivpat » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:24 PM UTC

Proziam wrote: post #63

wolco5 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Encription was banned in the US but it didn't work out so well. Parler build itself on Amazon which was the big mistake the next company won't follow. It's a wakeup call to anyone using the cloud that one day it might decide you are not welcome.

Unfortunately, even if you go to extremes, all (ISPs, Browsers, etc) have to do is choose not to connect to you.

Post by mywittyname » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:25 PM UTC

fjabre wrote: post #46

acdha wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elsevier and Wiley have a lot of lawyers who are likely arguing that leaving it up is condoning copyright infringement. There’s a long history of threats for anything related to targets of these lawsuits, and other companies taking something offline quickly to avoid being caught in the crossfire.

Hopefully with Dems in control we will see these companies punished for their bad behavior. Or at least laws passed that make the publication of research more open. The science should be funded and free. The applications of the science are where the money is to be made. These companies are unnecessary dinosaurs from a bygone era. It's time for them to fail and die off naturally. But it will probably take legislation…

Post by nradov » Tue, Jan 12, 2021, 3:26 PM UTC

wolco5 wrote: post #57

obblekk wrote: post #38

I’m supportive of free distribution of scientific knowledge, BUT HN has a significant bias against believing in the power of legal systems. No matter how good the technology, it can eventually be censored if the law is strong enough. In the past, it was hard to separate “useful” internet activity from “illegitimate” because things were changing quickly. Today, a government might say its simply illegal to use end to e…

Encription was banned in the US but it didn't work out so well. Parler build itself on Amazon which was the big mistake the next company won't follow. It's a wakeup call to anyone using the cloud that one day it might decide you are not welcome.