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Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by reaperducer »

d33lio wrote: post #32

YouTube is now a hostile space for creators of any political or social creed that create "edge" worthy content. Plain and simple. If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. If you produce "hacking" or firearms videos your content is not safe. Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the ch…

Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the children TM.

You mean the "millennial generation" that invented "cancel culture" to destroy the lives of people it doesn't agree with?

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by reaperducer »

slumdev wrote: post #54
d33lio wrote: post #32

YouTube is now a hostile space for creators of any political or social creed that create "edge" worthy content. Plain and simple. If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. If you produce "hacking" or firearms videos your content is not safe. Maybe some day the millennial generation will end the boomer era mantra of passing legislation federally or adopting policies that censoring content for the ch…

> If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. There was a time when a man's bedroom activity didn't enter into his professional life. I know the idea is difficult for millennials.

Every other generation: "A person who happens to be gay."

Millennials: "A gay person."

For some reason, a lot of younger people are hung up on defining themselves by their sexuality, rather than defining themselves by the kind of person they are or the things they have done.

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by vetinari »

hejja wrote: post #49
thatguy0900 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that something YouTube does? I was under the impression demonitized videos had no ads of any kind. As opposed to the copyright system rules where you will get ads but the revenue is diverted to someone else instead.

you are right. demonitized means unsuitable for advertisers, which means no ads.

Maybe not on hard demonetized, but they will run ads on videos of creators that are not eligible for the partner program:

https://www.engadget.com/youtube-ads-on-small-creator-videos...

Re: YouTube removed a Cybersecurity channel without much reason

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Post by vetinari »

typenil wrote: post #58
jasonlotito wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

De-monitized just means advertisers don't want to advertise on those channels via YouTube. It doesn't mean the channel can't find other means of funding itself. It's not YouTube's responsibility to fund a channel regardless of feedback from its advertisers. Simply put, you can't expect free money.

> De-monitized just means advertisers don't want to advertise on those channels via YouTube It means YouTube believes that advertisers don't want to advertise, or that journalists are running hit pieces on the vertical. It may be correlated to advertiser demands, but the direct causation isn't there most of the time.

I actually like demonetized videos. Interesting topics, no ads :).

Yes, it is not a good thing for creators, and they must be creative in finding ways to get paid.

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Post by Avtomatk »

scrps wrote: post #50
Avtomatk wrote: post #40

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> I am not suggesting those videos / channels be banned either just pointing the uneven absurdity of YT's policies. I make the same clarifications in each comment I make so as not to receive a wave of downvotes, it is incredible how HN decreases in quality more and more.

Just to clarify, I didn't make that distinction to avoid downvotes, I made it because I believe it, down or up votes be damned. If the freedom to exchange knowledge has devolved into a popularity contest that determines what knowledge is acceptable to share then we should all be very afraid.

Personally, I am not interested in getting positive votes, but it bothers me that my comment is "censored" by a couple of people who did not understand what I said and who do not even participate in the conversation... It is like if you were in a meeting in your work and a random person on the street say that your idea is bad and they do not take you into account for it.

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Post by UncleMeat »

reaperducer wrote: post #62
slumdev wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're a trans or LGBTQ creator your content is not safe. There was a time when a man's bedroom activity didn't enter into his professional life. I know the idea is difficult for millennials.

Every other generation: "A person who happens to be gay." Millennials: "A gay person." For some reason, a lot of younger people are hung up on defining themselves by their sexuality, rather than defining themselves by the kind of person they are or the things they have done.

Every other generation: a degenerate who deserves to be thrown in prison or die of aids.

Let’s not pretend that the older generations have any moral high ground regarding non traditional sexualities.

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Post by syshum »

torben-friis wrote: post #34
syshum wrote: post #24

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They have removed ALOT of gun channels as well. Most of the bigger Gun channels now just talk about news / reviews not really educational for that it is moved to BitChute or other YT Alternatives

I had never heard of bitchute. Going in, the first recommended video is: "A Jew asks why do people deny The Holocaust?...and admits the 6 Million figure is fake" from the account "Holocaust Lies Explained". Soo... yeah. Par for the course for "uncensored alternative" sites I guess?

Yes uncensored sites will have distasteful, terrible, and repugnant content.

That is a GOOD thing, and a FEATURE not a deterrent.

You do not defeat bad ideas, and repugnant ideologies with suppression of speech. Sorry it does not work that way no matter how much the Authoritarian Left and the Authoritarian Right would love it to

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Post by intricatedetail »

djsumdog wrote: post #5

Looks like he started a channel on a Peertube server, but it has nothing on it yet. I hope he has a backup of all his videos. ALWAYS HAVE A LOCAL BACKUP of all the content you upload to other services. Facebook is not your photo backup. All your stuff could disappear off Google tomorrow. The cloud is literally someone else's computer. The biggest takeaway for all YouToobers is to organize all their videos in a manor…

Shouldnt they allow data export in a way that could be used to upload all content to a different platform? I think that's GDPR data portability clause. Unless YouTube is exempt (and probably technically is exempt as no civil servant will dare to touch such a giant)

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Post by intricatedetail »

thatguy0900 wrote: post #41
bbarn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gun channels have almost all been demonetized. In fact, just about every vertical is "demonetized" in large portions of their content creators. It's almost like youtube is the only one profiting at scale, weird.

YouTube makes no money on demonitized videos as well, right?

It is a loss leader then and they profit indirectly.

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Post by thatguy0900 »

intricatedetail wrote: post #69
thatguy0900 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YouTube makes no money on demonitized videos as well, right?

It is a loss leader then and they profit indirectly.

Well I presume they would just kick the creators off if they thought they could get away with it without massive backlash, they're happy to randomly ban them at least
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