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Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by Waterluvian »

abfan1127 wrote: post #49
Ensorceled wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think kids have more ability to self regulate than we typically treat them as having. This "kids need adult supervision" is a relatively new thing, we used to be sent out to play as kids for HOURS (be home by dinner) and ran the woods and parks or played murderball (soccer with tackling) and other forms of roughhousing, all without serious mayhem. Parents would let us "work it out" if there was a fight.

I emphasize "work it out" so often with our kids. Funny story. my 4yo was playing with the neighborkids around the same age. the neighbor girl came to me to tattle, saying they weren't sharing. I told her you need to work it out with them, use your words and manners. Clearly not the result she was looking for, she turned and yelled "He said you have to share!" I clarified with the other kids "that's not what I said!…

Maybe that's her approach to working it out!

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by bcrosby95 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #14

Somewhat Tangential: Without any instruction my 2 and 4 year olds know how to turn things into weapons to beat each other with. Like puppies they seem to be testing limits to rough play. What surprised me is what happened when I didn't intervene: a few times the older one completely dominated and got his way. But more often than not the older one displayed empathy and tried to apologize and give kisses and give the y…

I think it depends on the kid. You just have to rely on the parents judgement. When our oldest was 4 our twins were 1 and she was very abusive towards them. She was trying to make them hurt and upset.

At 5, now they mostly get along fine. Unless they get in her toys. Then it's bodyslam time.

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by fnord123 »

> a large north-western city... 65% were Caucasian, 12% black and 19% multi-ethnic, 4% other.

What year is this from where Caucasian is still used? And northwest of what country? I guess US since the authors are from there?

Original article is behind a paywall. -1

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by vmception »

dfsegoat wrote: post #42
Ensorceled wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think kids have more ability to self regulate than we typically treat them as having. This "kids need adult supervision" is a relatively new thing, we used to be sent out to play as kids for HOURS (be home by dinner) and ran the woods and parks or played murderball (soccer with tackling) and other forms of roughhousing, all without serious mayhem. Parents would let us "work it out" if there was a fight.

Having grown up in the manner you describe, and being a parent of several young kids - I do find the prospect of them having a similar childhood pretty terrifying. I am forever thankful for a childhood like that - but letting my kids run amok in this day and age for hours brings me a lot of anxiety. It is an interesting paradox that makes me a bit sad. edit: for the record, we have them in wrestling / jiu jitsu - so…

there is nothing different this day and age except awareness

crime is lower across the board compared to 15-20 years ago

ignorance was bliss, for you

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by hnra »

Dirlewanger wrote: post #43
person_of_color wrote: post #23

I'm a rabid anti-gamer and I will tell you they are a gateway drug to antiproductivity.

I love video games, but I agree. You also have nothing to show for the time (I don't buy the "if you had fun, it was worth the time" argument). Hobbies where you can learn/hone new skills are more valuable. With video games, there's nothing to show for it. The only scenarios where I think they're beneficial is when they're enjoyed with friends (preferably in-person), or for the elderly to help with hand-eye coordinat…

So you are against most forms of entertainment? Art, music, movies, books, and games, are all forms of entertainment where you have little or nothing to "show for the time".

I think this focus on hyper-productivity as some form of ideal is a sad way of approaching life and self-worth.

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by Dumblydorr »

No one who thinks video games are to blame for violence is going to be convinced by a study of any length. People form their beliefs on COVID, vaccines, video games, and anything else in an irrational way. We need to pierce information silo's and echo chambers so these studies actually affect the ignorant who feel they are right with bad evidence and their misfounded opinions.

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by hindsightbias »

Ensorceled wrote: post #24
Waterluvian wrote: post #14

Somewhat Tangential: Without any instruction my 2 and 4 year olds know how to turn things into weapons to beat each other with. Like puppies they seem to be testing limits to rough play. What surprised me is what happened when I didn't intervene: a few times the older one completely dominated and got his way. But more often than not the older one displayed empathy and tried to apologize and give kisses and give the y…

> I think kids have more ability to self regulate than we typically treat them as having. This "kids need adult supervision" is a relatively new thing, we used to be sent out to play as kids for HOURS (be home by dinner) and ran the woods and parks or played murderball (soccer with tackling) and other forms of roughhousing, all without serious mayhem. Parents would let us "work it out" if there was a fight.

And yet a generation raised that way turned out to be absolutely paranoid about raising their own kids.

Re: Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior

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Post by Dumblydorr »

Waterluvian wrote: post #14

Somewhat Tangential: Without any instruction my 2 and 4 year olds know how to turn things into weapons to beat each other with. Like puppies they seem to be testing limits to rough play. What surprised me is what happened when I didn't intervene: a few times the older one completely dominated and got his way. But more often than not the older one displayed empathy and tried to apologize and give kisses and give the y…

Evolutionary psychology teaches us that mammals play to learn social skills, so you're right on with your assessments.
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