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Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by bovermyer »

mattlutze wrote: post #7
supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

Given the time that's passed since then, you'd be one of the old rich person. Austin sounds like an up-and-coming Valley, as do a few other really gorgeous locations around the US. The trick is to pick one and settle in early.

Minneapolis is also gorgeous, and relatively cheap. There's a "greenway" for bikes and pedestrians that's a converted railway. It has a huge music and art scene. There are tons of local breweries and more than a handful of startups and big name companies with a presence there.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by anonymoushn »

twelvechairs wrote: post #44
supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

Maybe you should just be thankful for the benefits you have. Most of the world is not lucky enough to be capable of working in tech in the Bay area.

I don't think people should be happy to be fleeced by wealthy landowners, at least because if they were fleeced slightly less then they could give the difference to people living in poverty.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by ascagnel_ »

victor106 wrote: post #53

> Microsoft will be designing its own processors for its Surface laptop line and its cloud servers. I love Satya’s Microsoft. But every time Microsoft tries to copy Apple they have failed miserably. I wish they don’t and instead focus on their strengths. But you never know, Satya’s proven us wrong on several occasions. So maybe this time is different?

While I generally agree, I think MS has to copy Apple here, but not because they need to make the same products. The M1 chip was Apple planting the flag for consumer-level ARM performance, and every indication is that they'll be able to scale that performance up to more demanding use-cases. MS's fortunes are tied to Intel and Qualcomm for the time being, both of whom are falling behind on performance and performance/watt, so they need to do something to remain competitive.

What would throw the world for a loop would be if MS secured an x86 license from Intel and developed their own chip with the performance/watt of the M1.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by pydry »

victor106 wrote: post #53

> Microsoft will be designing its own processors for its Surface laptop line and its cloud servers. I love Satya’s Microsoft. But every time Microsoft tries to copy Apple they have failed miserably. I wish they don’t and instead focus on their strengths. But you never know, Satya’s proven us wrong on several occasions. So maybe this time is different?

Copying is in Microsoft's DNA. I can barely think of a successful product they have made that wasn't a knock off of something else (lotus 123, azure, .NET, etc)

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by bluntfang »

sgt wrote: post #51
eptcyka wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the states are not?

The US is a stable and functioning democracy. This is not to say it is perfect.

>The US is a stable and functioning democracy.

Our current president and almost half of the country explicitly doesn't think so.

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by skavi »

coldtea wrote: post #30
supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

> It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family. Yeah, you would then be the "rich [person] who others curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family"

Is that not their implication?

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by dimitrios1 »

bluntfang wrote: post #65
sgt wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is a stable and functioning democracy. This is not to say it is perfect.

>The US is a stable and functioning democracy. Our current president and almost half of the country explicitly doesn't think so.

This is hogwash, and a lie mostly propagated by blue check journo twitter. Remember, twitter is not representative of anything even close to consensus political opinion. It's mostly an echo chamber for elites patting themselves on the back for their "correct" opinions https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/04/twitt...

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by machello13 »

coldtea wrote: post #30
supernova87a wrote: post #4

Can you imagine moving to the Bay Area in the 80s? To grow up when land was still cheap, before college competition was cutthroat and unaffordable, when relatively simple competence could get you a solid job and VC/PE firms weren't plundering and incentivizing the latest 30-second attention-span app to reach $1B? It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or…

> It would be me living in Los Altos now, instead of the old rich people who I curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family. Yeah, you would then be the "rich [person] who others curse for refusing to die or reform Prop 13 and free up some affordable place to raise a new family"

whoosh

Re: Joining Apple 40 years ago

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Post by buckminster »

sgt wrote: post #52
ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I made the post from my iPad. I suspect it did the quotes. Let's "try" it from my computer... Nowadays, people sneer at me for "working for The Man." Being an Apple programmer has meant many years of being sneered at. No way to win...

I think you can toggle the smart quotes. I don't like them either. And if they happen to end up in code, it's insanely irritating.

Oh God yes! You get an obscure syntax error and it really isn't obvious what the problem is. It would be useful if syntax highlighting marked smart quotes (outside of strings) with a bright red background or something.
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