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Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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Re: Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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I had NumWorks[1] calculator, which also has Python support. Based on STM32F4 series MCU. Had a decent battery life. Unfortunately it died some time ago, after a year of usage, and I have not been able to use it any more. Using quite common Sharp EL-W506XVL[2] on desk and HP-42S clone Free42[3] on the phone/PC nowadays. [1] https://www.numworks.com/ [2] http://www.sharp-calculators.com/en/category/6-educational-c...…

Wait, is the battery not replaceable?

Re: Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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It's a shame it has a screen that looks like it came from the turn of the century.

Well, its paired with almost equally bad keypad, I so that sort of balances it out. Somehow I don't see writing any meaningful amount of Python on that being particularly comfortable.

You can connect via USB and write programs on your PC and transfer them over if you wish.

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post #12

I had NumWorks[1] calculator, which also has Python support. Based on STM32F4 series MCU. Had a decent battery life. Unfortunately it died some time ago, after a year of usage, and I have not been able to use it any more. Using quite common Sharp EL-W506XVL[2] on desk and HP-42S clone Free42[3] on the phone/PC nowadays. [1] https://www.numworks.com/ [2] http://www.sharp-calculators.com/en/category/6-educational-c...…

Hi! NumWorks founder here. First of all thanks for the mention. Also your calculator’s battery dying that early is not normal, I’m very sorry to hear that. We’re doing everything we can to preserve battery life (namely, low charge current, no over-charging, and very low discharge current), and our most pessimistic estimates give us at least 10 years of battery life. If you send us an email at contact@numworks.com I’m…

Congratuallations on achieving a successfull business and helping turn Python into what looks to be the next BASIC.

Re: Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The "bits that are missing" relate to Python's standard library, which is huge. MicroPython has svelte versions of many of Python's standard library modules... Pick and choose what you need, given your specific context. MicroPython is pretty friendly in that respect. FWIW, MicroPython, as a language, is a complete reimplementation of Python (and an amazing feat of engineering on the part of Damien and his collaborato…

> MicroPython, as a language, is a complete reimplementation of Python But there are plenty of differences between MicroPython and CPython [0]. Many of them (listed under “Syntax”, “Core language” and “Builtin types”) relate to the language itself rather than the standard library. Not to mention that the baseline for those lists is CPython 3.4 - MicroPython is also missing most of the new features of CPython 3.5 - 3.…

I don't see what the problem is, this is the kind of problems that you always bump into when not able to used the very latest and greatest of a programming language.

Specially one like Python that introduces breaking changes even across minor versions.

Re: Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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Relative to other graphing calculators, I've always felt that Casio's offerings were a good value relative to TI- ever since TI captured the education market they stopped being cool and definitely stopped being a good value. I think that having Python is a neat feature. I have strong opinions about calculators in general, and have owned a wide range of Casio, HP, TI, and even some old/niche ones that only real calcul…

I think your position is unrealistic for an education setting. You’re proposing working computers and smartphones for every desk and student. Computers and apps are not standardised at all. Disparity between them and compatibility issues are a massive contention when you have lots of people to educate. Not only that, even today here in the UK, not every student has a smartphone or a home computer so you’re instantly…

Every kid at my children's school have a Chromebook. The exact same model. Calculators are really relics of a bygone era and it is time education realizes there is greater value in embracing better tech than trying to stop a bogeyman.

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The same is true for the fx-CG50. I have one and was able to write and upload MicroPython programs from Linux. The calculator simply appears as a USB storage device when plugged in and you drop text files in the right directory. No other calculator brand I've found can be interfaced with using Linux. You can also write or edit Python programs on the calculator, although it's not a good experience, it is possible.

Oh, the fx-CG50 is also powered by AA's, thus making it an eternal device.

Re: Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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Relative to other graphing calculators, I've always felt that Casio's offerings were a good value relative to TI- ever since TI captured the education market they stopped being cool and definitely stopped being a good value. I think that having Python is a neat feature. I have strong opinions about calculators in general, and have owned a wide range of Casio, HP, TI, and even some old/niche ones that only real calcul…

I think your position is unrealistic for an education setting. You’re proposing working computers and smartphones for every desk and student. Computers and apps are not standardised at all. Disparity between them and compatibility issues are a massive contention when you have lots of people to educate. Not only that, even today here in the UK, not every student has a smartphone or a home computer so you’re instantly…

My professor at the University used to let me use an HP Prime emulator on my laptop for tests, and to some of my peers, they would be allowed to use HP Prime emulators on their phones, it's really difficult to cheat on the kinds of tests where you need these calculators, you can't simply copy your classmate's answer and be done with it, you need procedure to back that up.

And it was $15 the emulator app by hp was worth vs $150 for the actual calculator, and I would never use that calculator again in my life, since in real life no one is limiting my access to my computer, which does everything the HP Prime does and more. I thank my professor for that opportunity

Re: Casio Graphing Scientific Calculator Fx-9860GIII Comes with MicroPython

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Relative to other graphing calculators, I've always felt that Casio's offerings were a good value relative to TI- ever since TI captured the education market they stopped being cool and definitely stopped being a good value. I think that having Python is a neat feature. I have strong opinions about calculators in general, and have owned a wide range of Casio, HP, TI, and even some old/niche ones that only real calcul…

I think your position is unrealistic for an education setting. You’re proposing working computers and smartphones for every desk and student. Computers and apps are not standardised at all. Disparity between them and compatibility issues are a massive contention when you have lots of people to educate. Not only that, even today here in the UK, not every student has a smartphone or a home computer so you’re instantly…

>And you can’t realistically control the configuration of a computer or smartphone in an exam.

And why should you? This isn't the 1860s when exams were being invented. We shouldn't try and copy the conditions that were accidental at the time for all eternity. If someone can cram their phone with a program that answers their exams for them they should be commended for good preparation and we should find another way of measuring peoples knowledge.

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Relative to other graphing calculators, I've always felt that Casio's offerings were a good value relative to TI- ever since TI captured the education market they stopped being cool and definitely stopped being a good value. I think that having Python is a neat feature. I have strong opinions about calculators in general, and have owned a wide range of Casio, HP, TI, and even some old/niche ones that only real calcul…

I attended "poor" schools most of my life. Graphing calculators were provided and rarely we had homework. The irony was, once I got to college, for our calculus class we were only allowed to use a basic calculator.
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