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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#61

Back to SMS.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

> there's still WhatsApp,

Literally in the headline. (unless it's been edited)

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

Signal can also function as SMS client on Android, so it's easy to communicate with those who have Signal or use plain SMS; besides additional hardening against SMS based exploits.

I wish they didn't discard the encryption on SMS, at least there's still Silence.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#65
Whatsapp is extremely dominant in my country, but I keep encouraging friends and acquaintances to install Telegram. As far as I know, there won't be anything preventing FB from geoblocking European users when the company eventually gets in some serious trouble, like it just did in the US.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #59

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Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

There are options sure but on my friends case I can see people aren't so eager to leave the most popular applications/networks, the privacy argument is often shunned with classic "I don't have anything to hide" line and often one is "I won't be installing another app on my x/y/z". But Telegram still seems to be most popular second choice after Messenger and/or WhatsApp - I've seen recently two people joining it out o…

+1 for Matrix. Just needs some more polished clients

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#67
post #48

"But senators, we can't break up these three unrelated services because they all use the same messaging infrastructure!"

I laughed at this because I thought the same thing. Conspiratorial or no, that line of argument won't fly. Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly.

IIRC this is exactly what MS claimed about bundling IE : it was tied into the kernel.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#68
post #14

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How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

Well my mom knows how to use WhatsApp. All the women in her knitting club are using it to stay in touch with their grandkids. She probably doesn't know what an SMS is (those are those things her bank sends her, right?).

Should be easy – SMS it's the "default" messaging app from a phone, isn't it?

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

#69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I laughed at this because I thought the same thing. Conspiratorial or no, that line of argument won't fly. Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly.

IIRC this is exactly what MS claimed about bundling IE : it was tied into the kernel.

Yes that was a defense. Explorer.exe and IE were intimately tied together. Remember “active desktop”? You could make your Windows desktop background a web page. Crazy times...

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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post #48

"But senators, we can't break up these three unrelated services because they all use the same messaging infrastructure!"

I laughed at this because I thought the same thing. Conspiratorial or no, that line of argument won't fly. Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly.

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