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Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Re: Vitamin D insufficiency may account for almost 90% of Covid-19 deaths

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Post by nradov »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #35
meesterdude wrote: post #8

While I don't think Vitamin D is a covid cure - I think it's appalling that Youtube has banned anything that discusses vitamin D and covid. Especially when there is so much science behind it, and so much more that we need to do to understand it and covid better. I know there is rampant misinformation out there, but I fail to see how this censorship serves the public interest - and wonder what benefits google has to g…

I'm waiting for one of the big tech companies to end up getting sued for their self appointed role as arbiters of truth on all of human knowledge. Everyone hates politicians, even if not everyone hates the same politicians, so there's some appetite for tech companies favoring speech from one group or another. But now that they're wading into the territory of health, they're putting themselves into a precarious positi…

There is no legal basis for such a lawsuit. For better or worse it's not illegal to be wrong or censor a private platform.

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Post by jpindar »

barbs wrote: post #24
meesterdude wrote: post #8

While I don't think Vitamin D is a covid cure - I think it's appalling that Youtube has banned anything that discusses vitamin D and covid. Especially when there is so much science behind it, and so much more that we need to do to understand it and covid better. I know there is rampant misinformation out there, but I fail to see how this censorship serves the public interest - and wonder what benefits google has to g…

I wasn't aware they were doing this. Is this true? I couldn't find any info on this.

Dr. John Campbell's videos are still there. He's been recommending vitamin D since the start. But he's a medical professional and he's not selling anything, which may have something to do with it.

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Post by wyldfire »

LennyWhiteJr wrote: post #12

In case you live in a northern climate and want to catch some rays through a window. Glass filters >90% of the rays that cause vitamin D production.

That's interesting, I was just wondering whether we get any benefit from ambient sunlight indoors. So you're saying 'yes' (a limited / very modest benefit).

But how much sunlight do you need in order to saturate your vitamin D production? If I'm indoors in a room with a lot of windows all day, is that good enough?

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Post by thatguy0900 »

andi999 wrote: post #26

I remember that there also was the result that supplementing does not help if you have covid. So to me it looks just like correlation and not causation (old sick people do not go out often and have less vitamin D. Probably same reason while you can find health benifits for alcohol: sick people stop drinking )

Maybe it just takes a while for supplementation to actually raise your vitamin d levels

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Post by lame-robot-hoax »

mrandish wrote: post #57

When the third supportive pre-print paper was released in late April I started my elderly mother on a D3 supplement. As more papers came out in May I started my whole family on it. I read up on dosing and it's pretty hard to overdose unless megadosing over a sustained period of time and negative reactions/interactions are rare. We've been supplementing ~5k to 10k IU daily (total, incl any multi-vitamins) depending on…

I wouldn’t worry too much about sunscreen. Don’t have the link, but I remember reading a study that sunscreen had pretty much a zero 0% effect on Vitamin D levels, because most people wear way less sunscreen than they should, and the left over areas that people miss still produce enough.

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Post by madrox »

I've been telling family and friends to take vitamin D supplements since the first of these kinds of studies came out. The data is hardly conclusive (case control bias, affect of supplementation vs natural production, etc), and the abstract here even points that out. However, there's nothing to lose...especially this time of year.

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Post by mensetmanusman »

ryandvm wrote: post #54
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #10

It's unfortunate that it is not simple to get regular tests for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. The whole process seems to be stuck behind the doctor appointment firewall. This might be one of the reasons why Theranos was so readily believed. As the quantified self movement that gained popularity around the same time showed, there's an appetite in certain segments of the population for this type of testing and trac…

I've often wondered if it would be economically feasible for blood donation banks to do this as a perk/incentive for giving blood. Every 6 months or so, you donate blood and as part of the process you get run-of-the-mill bloodwork report emailed to you a few days later. You'd have to make sure you weren't creating an incentive for sick people to donate blood just for the lab work, but otherwise it seems like it would…

That is an amazing idea.

I would definitely be more incentivized to give blood if it gave me a run down of various nutrients just from a curiosity point of view.

E.g. what are my selenium levels compared to the general population?

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Post by CoryMathews »

nostromo wrote: post #17
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #10

It's unfortunate that it is not simple to get regular tests for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. The whole process seems to be stuck behind the doctor appointment firewall. This might be one of the reasons why Theranos was so readily believed. As the quantified self movement that gained popularity around the same time showed, there's an appetite in certain segments of the population for this type of testing and trac…

This does exist now. Places like https://www.everlywell.com/ will test all sorts of things for you over the internet -- no doctor required.

I only see a test for each exact vitamin one by one. For instance Vitamin D is $49. Where is the full run-up?

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Post by pacaro »

shortandsweet wrote: post #55
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #10

It's unfortunate that it is not simple to get regular tests for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. The whole process seems to be stuck behind the doctor appointment firewall. This might be one of the reasons why Theranos was so readily believed. As the quantified self movement that gained popularity around the same time showed, there's an appetite in certain segments of the population for this type of testing and trac…

Why not make it simple? I donate blood every 2 months. They tell me cholesterol and if I have c19 antibodies. Why not other important health indicators?

I can't donate blood, for fairly bogus reasons, this is true for a surprisingly large subset of the population

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Post by travisoneill1 »

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #10

It's unfortunate that it is not simple to get regular tests for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. The whole process seems to be stuck behind the doctor appointment firewall. This might be one of the reasons why Theranos was so readily believed. As the quantified self movement that gained popularity around the same time showed, there's an appetite in certain segments of the population for this type of testing and trac…

Would make a great training data set too. Who knows what patterns we haven't found for lack of looking.
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