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Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by squeezingswirls »

flavor8 wrote: post #56
ilikeerp wrote: post #4

I will be getting this! I wish one day it would include a super high quality camera like Samsung then it would be perfect.

Definitely needs a better camera before I could consider it. A jump to 20MP, and then perhaps forking OpenCamera rather than developing one directly for Pine might be a good way forward. Does Pine have any recommendations for auto-cloud backup of photos, to replace Google Photos? (Photos is one of the killer apps for me - I could live without the cloud features, but the seamless cloud sync is a major feature.)

I haven't used plasma-mobile yet but in UBPorts you can sync your photos with your Nextcloud instance. Another option is Syncthing.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by strombofulous »

olah_1 wrote: post #47
tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

> then a lot more people will need to help with this. I don't know how that will happen I wonder if community crypto-currency tokens could be used for incentive. See explanation twitter thread here: https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1326313315044192256?s=20 Really, community tokens could be the basis for a true guild system. The collective community of token holders would represent collective expertise in a specific…

This is a cool idea. It's like stock options for a startup

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by rfvrgvegbegn »

ognarb wrote: post #3

I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

Hi, thanks for your work on Plasma Mobile.

Android has an Hardware Abstraction Layer (Android HAL) that acts as a unique central clean definition of what the hardware provides and how to access it. It makes it easier for Android to remain HW agnostic and for HW vendor to be compatible with Android.

Is there a similar effort on Linux ?

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by megous »

microtonal wrote: post #6

I don't have enough background, but I recently read that some distributions could be a fire hazard due to the lack of proper temperature regulation: https://xnux.eu/log/#017 https://xnux.eu/log/#018 If this was the case, is that still a concern and which distributions/systems address this problem?

It's probably not a fire hazard any more than other regular smartphones. Battery usually only gets somewhat warm when charged at "fast charging" current.

My kernel has some patches that enable battery thermal regulation in the power management chip. Battery gets too warm/cold, charging stops.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by swebs »

flavor8 wrote: post #56
ilikeerp wrote: post #4

I will be getting this! I wish one day it would include a super high quality camera like Samsung then it would be perfect.

Definitely needs a better camera before I could consider it. A jump to 20MP, and then perhaps forking OpenCamera rather than developing one directly for Pine might be a good way forward. Does Pine have any recommendations for auto-cloud backup of photos, to replace Google Photos? (Photos is one of the killer apps for me - I could live without the cloud features, but the seamless cloud sync is a major feature.)

Operating systems for the Pinephone use the same software packages as desktop ARM Linux. So if it runs in the Raspberry Pi, it will run on your phone. Nextcloud is a nice option for seamless cloud sync.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by sto_hristo »

ognarb wrote: post #51
sto_hristo wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you see this develop in the future, especially concerning the convergence aspect of it - the ability to hook it up to a monitor and use it as a real desktop computer. Please provide your own personal and unofficial opinion.

The Pinephone supports convergence, but there is still a lot of work needed on the software side. The under-laying technology "Plasmashell" is able to run different view modes: the traditional desktop mode, the mobile mode and the smart tv mode ( https://plasma-bigscreen.org/ ). The missing link is the possibility to switch the view at runtime. Now while I think the feature is cool, I'm not sure how useful it is. I d…

Alright, thanks.

For me the desktop capability of it is the most exciting thing. There are lots tasks i can do that don't require powerful cpu and lots of ram. I can even see myself developing in certain cases where i can just remote into a dedicated workstation - seeing what games mobile phones can run, it's not hard to imagine one can run a thing like vscode in client mode.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by swebs »

danielEM wrote: post #50

Love the idea of that phone! And would love it even more if: - it had 3 USB-C ports - out of which 2 were USB 3.1 standard with alternate mode HDMI capable of FullHD resolution - it had processor that achieves in geekbench 5 somewhere between 1.5k - 2k points multicore at least I know, I know - need to wake up ;-)

Well there is a Convergence Edition which allows you to output over HDMI.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by megous »

sto_hristo wrote: post #33
ognarb wrote: post #3

I'm one of the Plasma Mobile developer and I would be happy to answer questions.

How do you see this develop in the future, especially concerning the convergence aspect of it - the ability to hook it up to a monitor and use it as a real desktop computer. Please provide your own personal and unofficial opinion.

It can be very useful if you use all HW acceleration Allwinner SoCs can give you to make PinePhone into a portable movie player. :) Hook it up to a TV via HDMI port in a hotel and play anything you like. It can achieve quite some performance that way:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyRm8kccyG4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHOgVmxH_dA

Other side of Allwinner SoC business is making TV box SoC (H* series of SoC), and it shows on A64 too.

It can do video playback at 60FPS HW scaled to larger 1440p displays, for example. Including audio over HDMI. This is already working with current gstreamer and kernel.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by swiley »

tluyben2 wrote: post #35

I got my pinephone (Manjaro) last week and tried all OSs there are for it; I really love the idea of having a real Linux device in my pocket (that's why I have the Pandora, Pyra + GPD pocket 1 as well); it is such a difference having full control and being able to change whatever how you work instead of having large corps decide. Also shows, by the 'missing apps' between ecosystems, how much we need replacements for…

If you want speech install festival just like you would on desktop.

Re: PinePhone – KDE Community edition

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Post by megous »

sto_hristo wrote: post #66
ognarb wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pinephone supports convergence, but there is still a lot of work needed on the software side. The under-laying technology "Plasmashell" is able to run different view modes: the traditional desktop mode, the mobile mode and the smart tv mode ( https://plasma-bigscreen.org/ ). The missing link is the possibility to switch the view at runtime. Now while I think the feature is cool, I'm not sure how useful it is. I d…

Alright, thanks. For me the desktop capability of it is the most exciting thing. There are lots tasks i can do that don't require powerful cpu and lots of ram. I can even see myself developing in certain cases where i can just remote into a dedicated workstation - seeing what games mobile phones can run, it's not hard to imagine one can run a thing like vscode in client mode.

Yes, it works quite fine. Even web browsing is not too horrible if you really need it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdKNugT-mTQ

Enough for HN browsing, for sure. Even on a 1440p display.

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